The New Forum Software!

As of right now you don't, but Richard has already said he's going to be working on coding that particular feature. As of right now, you can also do alot of things that you couldn't previously.

Validity has nothing to do with something that has already happened. Justification doesn't really matter at the point that they decided to upgrade the forums (for any number of reasons, not the least of which would be because newer, non SEIV gamers had a hard time using them) and that the possibility of having the option is there, whereas with the old way there was not even the possibility.

There are quirks with any new software that have to be worked out, but whining about it doesn't solve the problem, yeah?

[Fyron]

There are quirks with any new software that have to be worked out, but whining about it doesn't solve the problem, yeah?

Who is whining? I have simply repeated what I have said from day one of that polls existence. There is a huge difference between discussing the validity of a sample of data and whining about a forum upgrade. I was doing the former.

If that's the case and what you've been doing since day one, I'm sure you could have posted a link to the poll or made a new one if you felt it was biased or innaccurate. I liked the former style as well and this forum upgrade has caused it's share of headaches for me, but I doubt discussing (instead of arguing) the validity of the reasoning *why* the forum change happened is going to do much of anything. I don't think Shrapnel made it's decision based on any one aspect, considering their official stance has been "Sorry if you don't like it, we'd love your business but if you can't handle it, then you don't have to." roughly summed up.

[Richard]

If that's the case and what you've been doing since day one, I'm sure you could have posted a link to the poll or made a new one if you felt it was biased or innaccurate. I liked the former style as well and this forum upgrade has caused it's share of headaches for me, but I doubt discussing (instead of arguing) the validity of the reasoning *why* the forum change happened is going to do much of anything. I don't think Shrapnel made it's decision based on any one aspect, considering their official stance has been "Sorry if you don't like it, we'd love your business but if you can't handle it, then you don't have to." roughly summed up.

Well I wouldn't go that far. I think we have been more than helpful in working through issues that have been brought up. No matter what forum software we chose, a move from a non database (ie, flat file) forum that is ancient to a modern database based one is going to be painful. I am actually quite please at how most of it went off without a hitch. As we run into issues we will make decisions as to how to balance out everyone's desires. Remember what one person hates on a board, another person loves.

This wasn't aimed at you Zen, but I wanted to clarify things a bit. Thanks for your help so far, and suggestions.

Maybe I should have more accurately said "When the issue of the forum sorting method, reasons for and reasons why it is not (your) prefered way" is brought up, the general response is:"

I never ment to say that Shrapnel didn't do it's best to be helpful and accomidating. With the amount of instant changes that have already happened, it should be obvious that you are more than willing to be both

[Fyron]

Hmmm Im not sure it was meant to be a poll of what the forumers want.

If that's the case and what you've been doing since day one, I'm sure you could have posted a link to the poll or made a new one if you felt it was biased or innaccurate.

It wasn't really relevant, just a place for a few people to ***** before leaving the forums. Not something I would want to support.

[Boron]

how can i increase the letter size ?

[Gandalf Parker]

It wasn't really relevant, just a place for a few people to ***** before leaving the forums. Not something I would want to support.

Oh come on. You really arent getting it? The forums are full of people who were not TOO bothered by the sequence. And the "place for a few people to ***** before leaving the forums" represents some of the people who left because of it. You say they arent representative, but neither is the forum membership.

Yes the overall numbers (when added together) dont show a huge majority in favor of change but it was enough to make it part of the consideration.

It wasn't really relevant, just a place for a few people to ***** before leaving the forums. Not something I would want to support.

I'd say that is a untrue statement. It has been said before and reiterated that people who did not like the forum, and/or did not get used to it and still did not like it, even for SEIV and other games of Shrapnel did not leave, but suffered through that which they did not enjoy and kept a presence (however limited) on the forum.

Maybe not the people you consider important that you talk to on a regular basis, but there are other games here than you particular favorite or mine. Which may have an impact with the option to choose their sorting method. I would hate to have people not get the customer support they feel they need because of such limited vision if it's feasible to avoid it.