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August 9th, 2004, 11:46 AM
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Re: The New Forum Software!
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One thing that would be nice is if the window that we type into could be made a bit larger. It's a little hard to see what you've written sometimes with the small one.
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The settings for that are in your profile
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August 9th, 2004, 03:56 PM
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Re: The New Forum Software!
I don't know if this was intended by the admins:
 Topic with over 100000 replies or 100000 views
It seems a bit high IMHO 
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August 9th, 2004, 04:22 PM
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Re: The New Forum Software!
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I don't know if this was intended by the admins:
Topic with over 100000 replies or 100000 views
It seems a bit high IMHO
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I've been informed that the admins were considering removing the hot-topic feature completely, so setting it very high (like 100k) is an easy way to accomplish that. I'm fairly sure it's intentional.
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August 9th, 2004, 10:58 PM
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Re: The New Forum Software!
To whomever changed the font size (Richard?), making it smaller, I have but one thing to say: THANK YOU !!! 
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August 10th, 2004, 12:36 AM
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Re: The New Forum Software!
Yes, a heartfelt thank you from me, too.
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August 10th, 2004, 03:20 AM
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Re: The New Forum Software!
i really like being able to see who posted the Last post on a thread, especially for sticky threads.
overall, i like the new look alot 
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August 10th, 2004, 03:47 AM
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Re: The New Forum Software!
BTW, in case folks hadn't noticed: contrary to the notice that was originally on the forum (and has since been removed/rewritten), you do NOT need to log off and log in again to get notification of PMs. A simple refresh (just like before the forum upgrade) is sufficient.
Once again, a heartfelt thanks to the good folks at Shrapnel for all their hard work in providing this upgrade, and for their ongoing task of ironing out all the kinks in the new code.
Cheers!
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August 10th, 2004, 06:40 AM
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Re: The New Forum Software!
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To whomever changed the font size (Richard?), making it smaller, I have but one thing to say: THANK YOU !!!
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Yes, the font is now 2mm high :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( An no wonder, look at this EVIL stylesheet:
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BODY,P,TABLE,TD,TR {
font-size: 11px;
font-family: sans-serif, arial, verdana;
color: 000000;
}
Ouch! Never, ever, under any condition, specify font sizes in px. It is the only totally surefire way of making the pages unreadable for somebody. Could you please kill that line? Or replace it with font-size: small; or something like that.
Thank you.
Alternatively, could we use some of the other stylesheets in the directory (threads//stylesheets)? I notice you can set this from the preferences, only the choice is non-existent. I don't care if something breaks 
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August 10th, 2004, 12:21 PM
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Re: The New Forum Software!
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To whomever changed the font size (Richard?), making it smaller, I have but one thing to say: THANK YOU !!!
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Yes, the font is now 2mm high :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( An no wonder, look at this EVIL stylesheet:
Code:
BODY,P,TABLE,TD,TR {
font-size: 11px;
font-family: sans-serif, arial, verdana;
color: 000000;
}
Ouch! Never, ever, under any condition, specify font sizes in px. It is the only totally surefire way of making the pages unreadable for somebody. Could you please kill that line? Or replace it with font-size: small; or something like that.
Thank you.
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Actually, specifying font sizes in px is the best way to do it, because it guarantees that the fonts will be the same size in all browsers accross all platforms. pt is a very arbitrary measurement that varies from OS to OS and even browser to browser. You can still increase the text size in the View menu, however.
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Alternatively, could we use some of the other stylesheets in the directory (threads//stylesheets)? I notice you can set this from the preferences, only the choice is non-existent. I don't care if something breaks
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Richard has stated that there is a possibility he will use this new forum capability to allow a range of font sizes to be selected from. He just has to make some extra style sheets. 
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August 11th, 2004, 09:08 AM
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Re: The New Forum Software!
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Ouch! Never, ever, under any condition, specify font sizes in px. It is the only totally surefire way of making the pages unreadable for somebody. Could you please kill that line? Or replace it with font-size: small; or something like that.
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Actually, specifying font sizes in px is the best way to do it, because it guarantees that the fonts will be the same size in all browsers across all platforms. pt is a very arbitrary measurement that varies from OS to OS and even browser to browser. You can still increase the text size in the View menu, however.
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Oh man, that is so wrong, as pixel-size is different from screen to screen(!). The font is unreadable for me; as I said about 2mm high. I've studied HTML rendering to some depth, even contributed to Mozilla in a small way, so I do now a little.
Let me summarize each font-sizing specification method, and the individual pro/cons.
- px. The font is chosen to be as close to the specified height in pixels as possible. Most browsers forces a minimum size on fonts, though, so it is no guarantee. The advantage is that you can mix images and fonts in a (semi)-predictable way; the disadvantage is that the font will be unreadable for some people and/or too large for other people.
- pt, mm, in, etc. In theory the font is chosen some the font height is the length specified. However, at the very least this requires the DPI-setting to be correct. This is usually true for linuxboxes, but in general this setting is wrong (usually 72DPI; for comparison mine is about 112.) From this is can be calculated that 11px~2.5mm for my monitor; and 3.9mm for a 72 DPI monitor. Even if these problems are ignored, this is almost never the best option, as it doesn't take into account such aspects as the user's eyesight, distance to the monitor, personal preference and so on.
- em, ex, xx% Relative to the parent (element's) font. Used right, this works well, but requires skilled stylesheet author to use correctly --- e.g. the main text should be exactly the size specified as normal from the browser's (or system's) settings. Another con is that the user has to configure his preferred size correctly.
- small, normal, +1, -1 etc Absolute sizes with reference point to the user's preferences. Usually the best option by far. The con is that the user has to configure his preferred size correctly, but the style sheet author only needs to know that the main text should be set with font-size: normal.
And yes, I can zoom in on the text, and do, but it is wildly annoying thing to do every time I visit the forums. Why not just do it correctly? It can't be that difficult to replace "font-size: 11px" with "font-size: normal". Or at least make a style-sheet which is not broken in this regard.
Sorry for being so brash. We all have sensitive spots; this is one of mine 
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