So how 'bout those Mets?

[Stormbinder]

To all fellow players who have expressed their support and appreciation:

I want to thank all of you. Your support is very important to me, and I really appreciate it. It makes me feel that the time and efforts to expose the cheater was well spend and apreciated by other Dom2 players. Thanks you guys.


As for my "editing" of the letter, as one or two people wrote here - frankly I don't think that these accusations are fair. First - I specifically said (in the part that was deleted by Zen together with letter) when I posted the letter that these are "excerpts" from the letter.

Second - I speciafically put "..." sign in few places where I cut unrelated text. I never did any other editing of course. Frankly I don't know what else could I possibly do to point out that I am posting excerpts, not the whole letter???

The only reason why I posted that letter in the first place was in respond to Zen's post, in which he said that Illwinter doesn't know yet if Norfleet has cheated or not, that it is not obvious to them or to him, and so on...

So I posted these expects that clearly show that at least KristoferO had no doubts whatsoever that Norfleet cheated, and that he thinks that for all other players it is just as obvious as well. I think it was very appropriate response, and I don't feel that I did something terribly unethicall here.

As for my "editing" - the only parts that I skiped was personal advice from KristofferO to myself, to "not brag" about the fact that I was right about Norfleet all along, and just relax and enjoy the results of what I have done. I skiped them in my post because they were personal and absolutely irrelivent to the fact that was being discussed at that moment, whihc is Norfleet's cheating. That's all.

BTW KristofferO, I actually thought about your advice seriosly and decided to take it to the hear when I've recieved your later. As anybody can see I haven't braged in any of the threads recently. (well, to be absolutely honest I did braged a littel bit once, but very shortly and two days ago, before that letter )

Instead I was staying calm and positive after Norfleet was finally busted, just as I intend to do in the future. And I wanted to thank KristofferO for his advice, because he was right of course. I also hope Kristoffer doesn't mind me posting these few expects from his latter, where he said that it is clear to Illwinter and should be clear to all players that the norfleet have cheated. Since then, both Jossef and KrisO have posted here on this thread saying just that, so it is not a question for anybody anymore.


Again, my deep thanks to everybody who expresed their suppost to me and for their kind words, in this thread and in others.

Feeling warn and cozy inside,
Stormbinder

[johan osterman]

...
Since then, both Jossef and KrisO have posted here on this thread saying just that, so it is not a question for anybody anymore.

...
Stormbinder

Jossef?

[archaeolept]

lol

storm always has some creative spelling. sometimes its even almost impossible to figure him out on IRC. Just be thankful he actually gave you a real name, johan. :P

of course, when i hear "jossef" I think either of goebbels or of comrade stalin

[Stormbinder]

lol

storm always has some creative spelling. :P

*sigh*

Sad but true.
I keep trying to invent some new words to add to the standart english vocabulary. Alas, so far Webster has been rejecting all my suggestions...

of course, when i hear "jossef" I think either of goebbels or of comrade stalin

...or of Bible.

[Cainehill]

Just to point out, Stormie, I didn't "promise" not to flame you. And funny how it's "profanity" when I use an acronym with a prominent 4 letter word, but apparently isn't when you do the same, including the same 4 letter word's initial?

And I didn't flame you - I stated my opinion of you. And it stands, given that you lied, and lied, and, "you lied like a salesman, selling flies" with all your statements about my lying, etc.

And, sweetcheeks? Again - saying I have no interest in flaming you isn't promising that I won't. And if you keep misrepresenting things, I may. ( Then again, at the moment you have a posse of fanboys who won't be swayed from thinking you're the bees knees, which suits your messiah complex just fine. )

[Zapmeister]

And I didn't flame you - I stated my opinion of you.

Hmm. In this context, www.dictionary.com defines a "flame" as "an insulting criticism or remark meant to incite anger, as on a computer network". It's a bit hard to see how stating your opinion of Stormbinder with the words "whining irritating self-righteous pompous snit" falls outside that definition.

Then again, at the moment you have a posse of fanboys who won't be swayed from thinking you're the bees knees

And well-deserved adulation it is, too. I know that I could never have survived the stream of abuse emanating from Norfleet's supporters long enough to produce the goods. Again, well done Stormbinder - we are all in your debt.

[Demosthenes]

mmmmmm'kay

Let's everybody just take a deep breath.

This thread has served its purpose which was to express concern and curiosity over Stormbinder's findings, the thread and its closure, and what had really happened.

This back and forth is only enjoyable for you two and is certainly not garnering any further support to either of your "sides". You are just making yourselves and each other look petulant and silly.


On a slightly lighter note,

I certainly hope that when further information regarding the events of the Last week becomes understood and 'cleared' for public consumption, that it will be disseminated swiftly to the forum.

[Kel]

And well-deserved adulation it is, too. I know that I could never have survived the stream of abuse emanating from Norfleet's supporters long enough to produce the goods.

Adulation ? lol. How utterly, utterly, completely nauseating.

I'm sorry, a lot of the abuse was self inflicted, well deserved, existed before Norfleet, had nothing to do with Norfleet and will continue to exist long after Norfleet.

I have never said this before but in an offhand way, I kind of hope Caine does start a flame war, not because I like to see flame wars but shet, some kind of counter-balance...I mean, some people really need a triple strength reality check, imo...

- Kel

[Stormbinder]

And I didn't flame you - I stated my opinion of you. And it stands, given that you lied, and lied, and, "you lied like a salesman, selling flies" with all your statements about my lying, etc.

In other words you can't post any proof of anything you just said here about me. No surprise, since both you and me knows very well that I never harrased you, I never send you any emails or PM Messages other than few I listed above, you never asked me not to send Messages to you (just because I didn't ) and I never used mine acronym FOAD, unlike yourself who keep using it again and again. You, however, insulted my in few dozens of your Posts just during Last few days.


But I'll let it lay, since as I said I have no interest in flamewars with you, so you could display your "famous" flame skills that you braged so much about, and start poisoning athmospheres this board just when it become clearer, with flamewars you love so much.

Just keep in mind, that like I said, in the future any profanity, insults or flames from you directed at me or any other player will be promptly reported to Moderators. You are not going to turn this forum into another medium of yours, where "people will be talking about your flames years after you are gone", as in your other forums, according to you. Don't even try.

Stormbinder

[Stormbinder]

Jossef?

ROFL!

I am sorry. Of course I mean Sir Johan Osterman.
My sincire appologies Johan. I should know how to type your name by now. Your big greeny head has been uttering words of wisdom so often in the past, resolving long Lasting disputes regarding Dom2 inner secrets. Sorry about mistype.