Mephisto

[Fyron]

Why is this coming up again?

Because the first ever OT thread was forcibly moved out of this forum Category.

The shrapnel general forums were created for a purpose.

And they were never used for that purpose, and Shrapnel has _always_ been of the position that OT threads don't need to be moved anywhere.

There are not many OT threads in this forum right now, so the suggestion that the thread was moved due to too many OT threads is not applicable.

BTW comments that "I rarely ever visit the other forums" or the shrapnel front page doesnt really help your case any.

That is a perfectly valid case. There is no reason to visit the rest of the forums if you only play one game published by Shrapnel.

[Renegade 13]

Religion and politics...it seems we must always talk about both at periodic intervals. I'm not saying this is a bad thing; the opposite actually. It helps us all re-evaluate our positions every once in a while, and prevents us from becoming set in our ways, and open to new thoughts and ideas.

What's the point of this? Well, I know the people who frequently visit the SEIV forum fairly well, and for the vast majority, I value their opinions. I do not know the entire Shrapnel Forum community in the same way. Therefore, if I start an OT thread in the SEIV forum, I am intending that thread to be read, and commented on by the patrons of the SEIV forum. I do not need or desire the opinions of the rest of the community.

Basically, if I wanted to know the opinion of all the forumers in the entire Forum, I would start a thread in the General forum. But really, we don't go overboard on the OT, therefore, what's the harm? It may not be SEIV related, and it definitely is Shrapnel's perogative to move, delete, etc threads, but in the end it would lead to a decline in forum traffic, and an overall blow to the SEIV community.

My opinion only, take it as you will.

[Gandalf Parker]

Renegade 13 said:
Religion and politics...it seems we must always talk about both at periodic intervals. I'm not saying this is a bad thing; the opposite actually. It helps us all re-evaluate our positions every once in a while, and prevents us from becoming set in our ways, and open to new thoughts and ideas.

It used to be that "Religion, Politics, and Sex are not acceptable subjects for polite company". Seriously, that was an etiquette rule because they tended to be more automatic argument than friendly debate. Of course now that sex is OK to talk about I think the new Version of the rule has become "Religion, Politics, and Operating Systems are not acceptable subjects for polite company".

[Gandalf Parker]

Imperator Fyron said:

Because the first ever OT thread was forcibly moved out of this forum Category.

But the subject was covered.

And they were never used for that purpose, and Shrapnel has _always_ been of the position that OT threads don't need to be moved anywhere.

Interesting viewpoint. But thats kindof based on lack of action rather than "position" isnt it? Are you feeling that it should be a "position" of Shrapnel that a thread cannot be moved from a game forum to the general forum?

BTW comments that "I rarely ever visit the other forums" or the shrapnel front page doesnt really help your case any.

That is a perfectly valid case. There is no reason to visit the rest of the forums if you only play one game published by Shrapnel.

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Not from your point of view. But on many sites that does tend to lead to popup ads, banners, losing forum territory to side wings for links to other things on the site, or killing the ability to go directory to a forum without going to the main page first.

[Fyron]

Gandalf Parker said:
But the subject was covered.

Yes, with Richard stating that there would be _no_ change regarding policy towards OT threads.

Interesting viewpoint. But thats kindof based on lack of action rather than "position" isnt it?

The fact that on many occasions in the past Richard has stated as much helps out... But, lack of a certain action for a 3+ year period is a good indicator of position on that action... Especially when the ability to take that action comes up frequently.

Are you feeling that it should be a "position" of Shrapnel that a thread cannot be moved from a game forum to the general forum?

Yes. See earlier post about specific communities, as well as Renegade13's post prior to yours.

Not from your point of view. But on many sites that does tend to lead to popup ads, banners, losing forum territory to side wings for links to other things on the site, or killing the ability to go directory to a forum without going to the main page first.

This is not many sites. This is Shrapnel. It is not like many other sites, and it should never be like such sites. What is your point?

Forcing Users to view the main forum page is pointless, and only harms the Users. There is no possible benefit that can not be emulated by critical announcements appearing at the top of every page or posted in all forums as is done now.