PBW - Loosers Who Quit

[Phoenix-D]

Gozra said:
Just to present the other side non-quitters can be annoying also. I was in a game once were I refused to quit and the winning player cussed at me and terminated the game. I had one active minefield in a nebula system so I refused to quit as "I had units still in the field" and my empire was still alive.

That's just being pissy. With one minefield there is 0% chance of doing anything meaningful..and worse, minefields are completely computer controlled anyway so all your holding on did was slow down the game for the other player(s).

[Atrocities]

Keep the language PG please.

[Randallw]

I had a similar situation once. My empire was classed as dead but I still had a few cloaked ships. I moved behind the enemy lines and started to attack his undefended colonies. My ships were the Last survivers of my empire and were forced to become guerillas. Of course I didn't take into account that with no empire they ran out of maintenance. Is this fair or annoying? (the striking after dead I mean).

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Randallw said:
I had a similar situation once. My empire was classed as dead but I still had a few cloaked ships. I moved behind the enemy lines and started to attack his undefended colonies. My ships were the Last survivers of my empire and were forced to become guerillas. Of course I didn't take into account that with no empire they ran out of maintenance. Is this fair or annoying? (the striking after dead I mean).

Both.

[Roanon]

Randallw said:
I had a similar situation once. My empire was classed as dead but I still had a few cloaked ships. I moved behind the enemy lines and started to attack his undefended colonies. My ships were the Last survivers of my empire and were forced to become guerillas. Of course I didn't take into account that with no empire they ran out of maintenance. Is this fair or annoying? (the striking after dead I mean).

Depends. If you are the Last surviving enemy, doesn't make sense to continue a decided game, it's just plain annoying. Like insisting to continue the game with only 1 hidden mine left.
Otherwise, my style is similar: even if defeat is inevitable, do as much damage as possible to your most hated enemy, making it easier for his next enemy. I would never stop playing as long as I have a single ship left and the game is not otherwise decided. And suicide and guerilla operations are perfect instruments for the weak underdogs. I could meet the same player again in another game, and he might think twice about attacking me then, even if he was victorious

In a multiplayer game, I always feel deprived if I attack someone and he drops out after the first assault. Not because I like to play cat-and-mice games with someone who has no chance. But if there still is a chance to destroy some the invading fleets and to substantially stall the advance, dropping out makes it way too easy to collect the booty fast while already advancing to the next war with the same fleets. And I rather like a hard-won victory than one that was nearly handed to me on a silver plate.

On a second thought, Randallw, do not take this gibberish of resisting to the end seriously for NGC4 .

[Randallw]

Roanon said:Depends. If you are the Last surviving enemy, doesn't make sense to continue a decided game, it's just plain annoying.

I wasn't the Last, I stayed on for as long as possible to try and help my long time partner.

[freduk]

Yes some people drop out way to fast, if you lose one battle and have no ships left in the sector, your opponent may always decide to do untactical things, like not attack your planets but just go back for resupply or have a retrofit party somewhere. Not all is lost if you loose a fleet.

But if a player quits, and someone takes over his empire a change of leadership can be very refreshing. I have taken over a game of the crushed player born2fly who was in 10th place, with two glassed homeworlds and only had 7 ships or so.
Now the empire is in 4th place with over 300 battleships, and his previous enemies have been neutralized.

[primitive]

Atrocities said:
Keep the language PG please.

Hard to do that when reading Gozra's post. Forcing someone with a big empire to spend hour upon hour of micromanagement just to get a cheap chuckle is just sick.

Goz: You made my personal never play list.

[Shrapnel]

Just my 2 cents...

There are more ways to have fun in a game even if you are loosing. Doesn't mean you have to annoy everyone and draw it out by hiding a cloaked ship somewhere, but loosing one fleet or an important sector does not mean you can't fight back and have a good time. That is what adds spice to the game, fighting back from unsurmountable odds.

[Gozra]

primitive said:

Hard to do that when reading Gozra's post. Forcing someone with a big empire to spend hour upon hour of micromanagement just to get a cheap chuckle is just sick.

Goz: You made my personal never play list.

Brevity has bitten me again. This is what happened The Winner killed my Last ship and planet. I called him up on the phone to congratulate him but I teased him a bit first and said the game indicated I still had units in the field. He said we can keep playing if I wanted. Then I told him it was a minefield in a nebula system then in exasperation he cussed and said I am not continuing for that. We laughed and started a new game. I always approach these forums with a bit of humor. How ever I have been accused of having very dry Humor. And I have been told by a friend once that I am funny but you have to able to think about what I say in order to understand my humor. I am disappointed I made your list Primitive.