lategame balance . are my concerns true ?

[Boron]

can you name me other troops / leaders than my mentioned immortals which you can use without equipment at all with great success when you win the dominionwar ?

so far really only DLC1 storm demon / air sc counter strat and JACK SIMTH undead mastery counter strat seem to work and probably my own suggested mass wither bones mage brigade counter strat .

so 3!! strats which are all extremely expensive compared to vampires .

and just remember i could e.g. with storm warriors / warriors of muspelheim make my vampires immune to lightning / fire .
i could mix in my own scs .

BUT vampires ALONE are already enough to defeat almost every army / sc .... .




so i suggest : remove summon allies command from vampire lords .
same with summon ghosts from wraith lords it is almost as overpowered .

make all immortal leaders (demilich / wraith lord / vampire lord ) cost 5-10 gold as upkeep .

these 2 things should be easy .
then the immortals would still be powerful but it would prohibit you to accumulate extremely huge vampire hordes lategame and 100+ immortal leaders .

[Graeme Dice]

Boron said:
and just remember i could e.g. with storm warriors / warriors of muspelheim make my vampires immune to lightning / fire .

Both of those spells only give 50% resistance. Wrathful skies with storm and false horrors can hold off a very large number of vampires. High-level fire magic will also quickly decimate their numbers. Flames from the sky can also kill huge numbers of vampires.

If I was planning for a game to Last to turn 100, then I would probably actually forge soul contracts with my slaves, depending on what nation I'm playing. Devils are superior troops to vampires, and if you can afford 100 vampire lords, I could afford to have 70-92 soul contracts. These also have the added benefit of being able to survive when you use heat from hell and firestorm.

[Cainehill]

Graeme Dice said:

Both of those spells only give 50% resistance. Wrathful skies with storm and false horrors can hold off a very large number of vampires. High-level fire magic will also quickly decimate their numbers. Flames from the sky can also kill huge numbers of vampires.

Decent earth magic can also decimate them - blade winds should cut a huge swath through the vampire ranks, and isn't reduced by any elemental resistance (mass protection would help, but makes them more vulnerable to fire; legions of steel is thus the only real counter I can think of).

Vampire hordes are only truly impressive against the AI in single player, or against an opponent who is out-matched anyway (in player skill, in research & gem income, or provinces & gold income).