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September 6th, 2004, 12:44 AM
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Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
These are interesting points, Aku. I guess after watching my hydras utterly rip your ice devils with ease, I suppose I decided that they could kill any SC. In fact, I had only 11 hydras in that underwater battle, which was less than 1/3 of them spread around my army. I also am fairly sure that the blessed hydras would rip the devils to shreds, what with the nine attacks (arranged three by three) per hydra and the poison. So I put you third because I felt I would be able to take you out fairly easily. Vampires are totally hopeless against the hydras with their regeneration. It would have been like swatting flies (flies seem immortal too when they swarm around you).
Plus your flmes from afar was fairly ineffective against my vine ogres, summer lions, and hydras, which was the only troops I recruited in the Last 20 turns or so.
However, I would have had severe trouble against man. His legions of longbows would have ripped my poor, slow hydras and they would have all gone berserked, thus making them even more suspectible to mass arrows. He would have lost tons of knights to the poison, though. But I would have probably lost all my hydras eventually to the longbows. That was why I thought he might have been ahead of me.
And as for you being able to rip Klatu, that sure makes sense to me. His longbows are no match for your fast flying devils. And flames from afar would utterly destroy his longbows before they got near you.
So, perhaps it might have been one of those rock/paper/scissors thingies.
Now, for Pasha Dawg, may I remind the UTTERLY DEAD spiders that they had exactly ZERO provinces left at the end? Even Caelum still had one province left, though it was under seige when the game went to the dawgs.
I also have to say that Serpent Cult is not all that bad a theme as I had orginally thought it was. In fact, had I gone 10 nature and got the extra regeneration plus the 4 berserk, it would have been even better. Blessed hydras rock big time! Each one is a full mini-SC without leadership. And the reduced upkeep cost on them is wonderful. But I was stupid and went only 7 nature, for some such newbie reason. Still, Serpent Cult was pretty darn decent after all, in my opinion.
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September 6th, 2004, 12:58 AM
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Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
well the ice devils lost bec i assume they went berserk from hell swords bec of the tritons flying on them right away causing them to not cast any of their spells =[
but that was my intial sc's where equipment was limited, my new sc's all had blood thorns and lucky coins for a shield so no berserk messing them up
also i was going to stop sending sc's alone and send them with devil armies
the flames from the sky i stopped casting on you bec they couldnt kill the high hp units but the spell would of wrecked havoc on man if he invaded me
so i could of devastated man while man could of devastated you lol
for the hydras i could of gave them poison immunity with one of those misc items since a slot would be open from the lucky coin also could of done bane lord or wraith lord sc's
would of been interesting but oh well
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September 6th, 2004, 01:03 AM
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Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
how many clams did you have Aku? and what was your monthly income Panther (and what was your upkeep?)
This was my first game, and I'm just curious to know some benchmarks.
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September 6th, 2004, 02:41 AM
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Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
Well I had I think almost 30 clams so far and making 2 a turn. My income was like a 1000 with 500 upkeep. My gem income was around 15 of each gem type + around 100 blood a turn. Remember my income is lowered a lot because my blood provinces I have at 0% tax to keep the unrest at 0. Blood nations get killed on their income because of that. So Man or Pythium would be the typical income if they care to reveal it. I also was getting gold from alchemizing fire and earth gems with the alchemist stone. I had too much fire gems with that eternal pyre running so long. I mainly used my gold to buy blood hunters and I started buying assassins, build up pd, or buy stuff from other players.
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September 6th, 2004, 08:24 AM
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Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
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Well I had I think almost 30 clams so far and making 2 a turn. My income was like a 1000 with 500 upkeep. My gem income was around 15 of each gem type + around 100 blood a turn. Remember my income is lowered a lot because my blood provinces I have at 0% tax to keep the unrest at 0. Blood nations get killed on their income because of that. So Man or Pythium would be the typical income if they care to reveal it. I also was getting gold from alchemizing fire and earth gems with the alchemist stone. I had too much fire gems with that eternal pyre running so long. I mainly used my gold to buy blood hunters and I started buying assassins, build up pd, or buy stuff from other players.
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hm i had about 25 clams and 15 fiever fetishes too .
was forging 3 clams + 4 fetishes / turn now
would have been soon more when i get more spectres
too bad that the game ended so sudden 
my "secret" growing could have been very interesting 
i think everybody saw me just as a minor power who barely won against poor machaka but was no danger at all 
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September 6th, 2004, 02:04 PM
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Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
Stats from the time-warped turn (61):
Monthly income - 1934
Upkeep - 730
Gem income, including 14 clams and 9 fetishes - 88
Blood slaves - about 15-20 on average
Provinces - 41
Mages - 77 of which all but 3 sages were also priests
Other commanders - 22
Hydras - 31 and recruiting 2 per turn
No SCs, though. I was going hydra power instead.
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September 6th, 2004, 02:43 PM
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Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
Also research levels as follows:
9-6-7-8-9-7-4
with 435 per turn.
I also had built about 12 of the unique artifacts, maybe more.
And, with 74 priests and growing, I was not overly worried about Boron's 'secret growing'.  I think that my endless banishments would rip through about anything he could muster. Although, being on opposite sides of the world, we would not have crashed until much, much later.
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September 6th, 2004, 03:12 PM
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Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
wow.. that's pretty cool for turn 60
you don't even want to know what I had! LOL
maybe 400 income and 390 upkeep most of the time.. no real gem income to speak of other then what i started with (i lost all the good provinces) and only about 20 mages. I had pretty decent research, but it was useless since I didn't have the gems or the paths/levels to cast anything impressive.
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