Slynky's Demise

[Lord Chane]

Grandpa Kim said:
I can only say that team play and using or being used are not mutually exclusive.

Sorry, I can't agree. In this context "used" means to take advantage of, abuse, victimize, exploit. Teams don't behave that way toward team members or they won't long be team members. Yes, teams use the member's skills but if it's truly a team, then the member's know what their role is up front.

Grandpa Kim said:
My boss uses my talents to further his company, I use his company to further my reputation and earn more and more money.

Yes, your boss uses your talents and skills to further the business of the company and in return the company pays you. That isn't used in the context I'm talking about. In that context you'd be used if your employer was severely underpaying you, or if your boss takes credit for the work you do, or if they somehow mistreated you because they knew you were in the country illegaly and couldn't do anything about it for fear of being deported. If your employer is mistreating, abusing, or victimizing you, then I doubt very much that you feel like your part of a team. Otherwise, I suspect you are part of a team and what you're describing are the different roles held by you and your employer.

Grandpa Kim said:
For myself, I don't recall ever using a pearl harbor attack. You will always get a warning.

The same here. I'm not advocating that no one should ever drop an alliance and go to war with a former ally, although I think there should be more justification for doing it than "so I can win". Just that if that becomes necessary, then the former ally should be given fair and adequate warning. And also that no hostile, subversive, or detrimental actions should be taken against an ally while you are allied with them.