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Old September 11th, 2004, 11:03 AM

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Default Re: Making Carriers and Fighters more usefull.

Now that is something that I definetly don't have the patience for...

The bane of all such games is the time MP consumes.
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Old September 11th, 2004, 11:30 AM
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What we are trying to do is get the mod to focus more on the use of fighters and carriers than on bigger badder ships.

We have removed the PDC from use with ships, replaced it with anti - fighter missiles. (if they work), and given the PDC to the fighters. (If that will work).

CNC wanted to keep the mod basic, no major design changes that would require extensive modding of the AI. I agree, why whip a dead horse. I am sure as time goes on and the mod becomes more of reality than it currently is, QNP and other concepts will be adopted. But with QNP and seperation of engine abilities comes the daunting task of AI editing and modding. And I really don't have to mention how much of a PITA this is.

Right now we have a basic mod working. Its playable and not that much differant from stock say for some new racial triats and technologies.

Cloaking technology is now a racial trait as is gravitational technology.

I wish CNC would not have posted here about the carrier fighter issue until we had more time to work on the ideas. But what is done is done. Now we have to sift through the Posts for things that we can use.

I do ask myself this daily, why bother? I mean anything we do now is kinda pointless given the fact that in a very short time the focus will change toward SEV.
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Old September 11th, 2004, 01:06 PM
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But with QNP and seperation of engine abilities comes the daunting task of AI editing and modding. And I really don't have to mention how much of a PITA this is.
For just QNP, it takes only a few minutes. If you set up the QNP in the "standard" way, like it is in Pirates and Nomads Mod (ion engines have 3 standard movement, all more advanced engines have 1 more MP per level), or even if it is a bit non-standard, you can use SJ's AI Patcher and the QNP option to patch all of the AI files to make them QNP rather than stock-like propulsion. It is available on http://www.geocities.com/hohoho611ca/pirates.html . Setting up the reactors would be a bit trickier, but you can fake it by using the AI Patcher, then replacing the Standard Movement ability in the AI files with the Supply ability, or an AI tag, depending on what is used. Then, apply the AI patcher again. Voila, all the AI will now add the same number of engines and reactors to ship designs, all in a nice QNP format.

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Cloaking? Erm... that sounds like it could be unbalancing... Are all forms of cloaking restricted to this racial trait? How about cloak scanners?

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I do ask myself this daily, why bother? I mean anything we do now is kinda pointless given the fact that in a very short time the focus will change toward SEV.
Probably at least a year... that is plenty of time for some PBW games to run their lives. Also, it shouldn't be too hard to adapt mods to SE5 format, so the groundwork done now will help when making the mod for SE5... Some kind soul will probably even write a program to convert mods from SE4 format to SE5 format.
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Old September 12th, 2004, 11:24 AM

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At... I am working on some ideas for the upcoming cool game i am running...

So perhaps some IM between you and I and CNC....
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Cool.
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Now that is something that I definetly don't have the patience for...

The bane of all such games is the time MP consumes.
With most games you just play one turn a day, or every other day. It does not take much time at all...
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