Wishlist for September

[Endoperez]

There, it seems it came out okay. Thanks for Gandalf for the idea... feel free to add your own ones. If someone would like to keep care of this monster, feel free but remember to feed it regularly with whatever you catch from these forums, as we don't want to let it die.

Heh, already edited it for the first time...

Endoperez

[Gandalf Parker]

WOW. Thats the best first-effort Ive seen done on a wishlist.

Previous first efforts tended to start as a next-patch list, or a gripe list, or a demands list, or a fix-this list. You did no opinionated prioritizing. It only mentions fix/broke one time and I didnt find the wording at all questionable or challenging. I only quickly glanced at it but I didnt see anything worded in a way that forced the devs to agree or disagree with a request. VERY nicely done!

If no one messes it up I think this will be a tagged thread for the devs to visit. IMHO

[Lepakko]

that was.... ... .... realy nice.. i mean GREAT!!

i think if they made all that it will take long... but realy nice wishlist..

[Gandalf Parker]

OK lets try to keep the list thread cleaner in order to make it the most useful. Adding a post to mention something you feel should be on the list is fine. But if you decide to reply in debate it might be best to just post a link to the new thread you opened for the debates on certain items.

I would like to avoid the jockeying for priority which killed the previous lists.

[The_Tauren13]

What I believe to be most important:

• blood slave frequency changeable or linked to magic site frequency
• better text message interface
• graphs showing (gem) income from events, items etc.
• ability to protect blood slaves from heat of the Abyssian warlock leading them
• symbols for more abilities, like spy, sailing, ability to heal...
• When selecting commander from F1 screen, have the commander be highlighted when it jumps to him
• Confirmation screen for 'throw item away'
• Battle results (i.e. list of casualties) when storming a Castle
• Enabling/disabling spells [being able to indicate which spells your mage should pick from]
• Less focus on supercombatants
• More regrowth possibilities / less emphasis on population death
• making temple-burning take one turn
• rebalancing the spell "False horror" (by increasing Air level needed or fatigue cost)

[Gandalf Parker]

The_Tauren13 said:
What I believe to be most important:

*sigh* what tauren13 would most like to see.. ?
or a seperate thread on what people feel is most important.. ?

[The_Tauren13]

well, start a separate thread then.
Endoperez's list just seems *far* too long to interest the devs...

[Thufir]

Gandalf Parker said:

*sigh* what tauren13 would most like to see.. ?
or a seperate thread on what people feel is most important.. ?

I'm not sure I see the problem, Gandalf. Certainly there are times when the arguments we are have about prioritization and the various features often get tedious, obnoxious and sometimes immature, but I think they are inevitable, and in the end useful.

I think Endoperez started this out with a great list, and you now have three of choices for format:
a) 1 thread (as it is now)
b) 2 threads (the wishlist [possibly stickied] and a debate thread)
c) N threads (the wishlist and a separate thread for each argument)

I think a) and b) are both reasonable choices, just don't go to option c) as that will make it harder to track issues. The important thing is the list itself, as this is our communication to the Devs (whom I trust to use this list with appropriate judgement and wisdom). So long as Endoperez is willing to undertake the ugly job of maintaining the list, I think we've got a working system. And at the end of the day, we as Users will just have to live with whatever choices Endoperez makes in terms of how he edits the list.

Debate is a messy thing, but I think the current format is quite liveable. (And thanks to Endoperez and yourself for getting it this far along )

[Gandalf Parker]

Thufir said:
I'm not sure I see the problem, Gandalf. Certainly there are times when the arguments we are have about prioritization and the various features often get tedious, obnoxious and sometimes immature, but I think they are inevitable, and in the end useful.

That depends on what the object is. If the object is to create a quick list that the devs can glance at when wondering what they might want to work on next, in order to not forget good ideas that were mentioned, then extensive discussions in this thread will get in the way.

If the object is to create a thread which is irritating to read and buries good ideas under piles of argument until it flames up and disappears.. well that would just be standard.

I think Endoperez started this out with a great list, and you now have three of choices for format:
a) 1 thread (as it is now)
b) 2 threads (the wishlist [possibly stickied] and a debate thread)
c) N threads (the wishlist and a separate thread for each argument)

I think a) and b) are both reasonable choices, just don't go to option c) as that will make it harder to track issues.

I disagree abit. I think the list is worth being stickied. But I think there will be too many subjects to discuss in one thread. If the sticky thread lists each item such as
- a map command to put indies on patrol
and then just a clickable link to the thread explaining that it allows adding castles to a map for stronger AIs without having them exploitable by 1 scout chasing everyone into the castle and taxing the province to death...
well I think that would be a very clean arrangment.