PBEM game "Not Stupid But Slow": Running

[Graeme Dice]

Alneyan said:
Graeme, is the matter with the original Cradle the problem of having very poor start provinces? The Version I have been using is Zen's modified Cradle (in Yarnspinners), and it fixes such problems if memory serves.

It's not just poor starting provinces, all the provinces on the map are poor, and the terrain limits all armies to a crawl.

[Boron]

Isn't cradle with 221 provinces too big ?

Nice that you are in graeme this should be the first time we are together in a game

[deccan]

Alneyan said:
Deccan, if your Pretender will not change (depending on the map for example), feel free to email it to me. Longbows are a good value, but then, I am too fond of archers. And yes, we did the same in a SEIV rated game (outside KOTH, as KOTH games must be played on PBW according to the rules; Asmala might have been a tad suspicious if we had done our game while PBW was offline).

Oh yeah, it was a Slynky game. Anyway, I'll hold off e-mailing until everything's settled. Let me know what map file to download and from where.

[Alneyan]

I hadn't noticed that Cradle has lower income values; I guess that explains why I am having a tough time doing my regular Man opening then (even if my income is one of the highest for now).

I would prefer Desert Eye in your own list Boron, as it is a warp around map. Any other suggestion regarding the map?

The current cast of players is as follow:
- Boron: Ermoria
- Deccan: Man
- Enforcer: Pangaea
- Graeme Dice: Pythium
- Vicious Love: Atlantis
- Myself: Arcoscephale

[deccan]

Alneyan said:
I would prefer Desert Eye in your own list Boron, as it is a warp around map. Any other suggestion regarding the map?

I do have a concern about the Desert Eye map. If a player starts in the neck between the two bodies of water, I think he's basically screwed.

[Alneyan]

Well, it should be possible to forbid the game from putting a player in such provinces. If memory serves, the command used would be #nostart. So removing provinces deemed very poor for a start should work out to resolve this matter.

Were you thinking about specific province numbers?

[deccan]

Alneyan said:
Were you thinking about specific province numbers?

Hmm, I actually need to use my brain for once. How annoying.

Okay, I just opened up the .map file and three provinces are already no-started: 8 (little island all by itself), 82 (the Desert Eye province) and 92 (cul-de-sac province next to the Desert Eye).

In addition to these, I suggest that the following should be nostarted as well:

1) Province 8 on a neck between two bodies of water. I actually had a start here while playing an SP game with an AI at either end. It has three land neighbours, two water neighbours.

2) Province 51 at the end of a mountain next to a body of water. Two land neighbours and one water neighbour.

3) Province 114, a peninsula. Two land neighbours, two water neighbours.

But really this is map with plenty of chokepoints, so some start locations are really a lot better than others. Just take a look at the map. Up to the other players if they think it's okay. I'm fine with it if the others are.

Atlantis will run riot on this map I bet, easy access to lots of places.

[En Forcer]

Say the word when you want pretender files mailed to you.

[YellowCactus]

I'd like to jump in as Ulm. But will need some Tech Support from other players if your using 2.13 patch.
-Yc

[Ighalli]

I'd like to join as Abysia unless the consensus is that blood nations are off limits here.