Wishlist for September

[Thufir]

Gandalf Parker said:

*sigh* what tauren13 would most like to see.. ?
or a seperate thread on what people feel is most important.. ?

I'm not sure I see the problem, Gandalf. Certainly there are times when the arguments we are have about prioritization and the various features often get tedious, obnoxious and sometimes immature, but I think they are inevitable, and in the end useful.

I think Endoperez started this out with a great list, and you now have three of choices for format:
a) 1 thread (as it is now)
b) 2 threads (the wishlist [possibly stickied] and a debate thread)
c) N threads (the wishlist and a separate thread for each argument)

I think a) and b) are both reasonable choices, just don't go to option c) as that will make it harder to track issues. The important thing is the list itself, as this is our communication to the Devs (whom I trust to use this list with appropriate judgement and wisdom). So long as Endoperez is willing to undertake the ugly job of maintaining the list, I think we've got a working system. And at the end of the day, we as Users will just have to live with whatever choices Endoperez makes in terms of how he edits the list.

Debate is a messy thing, but I think the current format is quite liveable. (And thanks to Endoperez and yourself for getting it this far along )

[Gandalf Parker]

Thufir said:
I'm not sure I see the problem, Gandalf. Certainly there are times when the arguments we are have about prioritization and the various features often get tedious, obnoxious and sometimes immature, but I think they are inevitable, and in the end useful.

That depends on what the object is. If the object is to create a quick list that the devs can glance at when wondering what they might want to work on next, in order to not forget good ideas that were mentioned, then extensive discussions in this thread will get in the way.

If the object is to create a thread which is irritating to read and buries good ideas under piles of argument until it flames up and disappears.. well that would just be standard.

I think Endoperez started this out with a great list, and you now have three of choices for format:
a) 1 thread (as it is now)
b) 2 threads (the wishlist [possibly stickied] and a debate thread)
c) N threads (the wishlist and a separate thread for each argument)

I think a) and b) are both reasonable choices, just don't go to option c) as that will make it harder to track issues.

I disagree abit. I think the list is worth being stickied. But I think there will be too many subjects to discuss in one thread. If the sticky thread lists each item such as
- a map command to put indies on patrol
and then just a clickable link to the thread explaining that it allows adding castles to a map for stronger AIs without having them exploitable by 1 scout chasing everyone into the castle and taxing the province to death...
well I think that would be a very clean arrangment.

[Cainehill]

In other words, things that _everyone_ would agree might be useful (like the casualty summary when castles are stormed), as opposed to things which are matters of opinion?

[Gandalf Parker]

Cainehill said:

In other words, things that _everyone_ would agree might be useful (like the casualty summary when castles are stormed), as opposed to things which are matters of opinion?

Not at all. Everything should be listed. In an unbiased simple reference list. And in such a list everything would be seen where obviously some of these flaming threads do not get seen. And Im not saying the debates should not occur but a well done respectful wishlist doesnt need them getting in the way of its purpose.

[Stormbinder]

It is vitually impossible for all players to agree on anything save perhaps most basic suggestions and bug fixing (and even that can be a problem ).

As some famous author said: "No matter how great is the book that you wrote, there will be always people who will hate it. And no matter how bad is your book, some folks will love it."

Same goes for computer games...

[Kel]

Not to mention all the bad books being written

- Kel

[Arryn]

Kel said:
Not to mention all the bad books being written

In your opinion.

[Cohen]

I'd agree with Tauren list, adding these points:

Modify of Drain Life weapon - make them less draining. I'd like to see used other weapons too. Probably this will satisfy the less focus on SC.

When you see Messages, sometimes go to province is required instead of go to commander (like a site searching spell result).

I disagree indeed to the temple burning turn.

[tinkthank]

Hey thanks Endoperez!
Only the first couple of items attributed to me in the orig post are from me; I still have a few (mostly bugfixes) I would like to see listed, but am not sure whether to post them here or not. The (interesting!) discussion about where/when/what to post in threads like this, kicked off by Gandalf's comments, has confused me a bit. Should we post here with stuff or not? Should we give opinions or not?