MP Game - "Throne Of Heavens", veterans and experienced players only (full)

Stormbinder · #1 September 13th, 2004, 08:33 PM

Bump!

2 players seem to be missing missing this turn, with less an hour until hosting time - Zombie and Maltrease.

Considering that the both are in wars, and Zombie just got a stalled turn and had most of his army wiped out, I think I should increase turn length, to give them a chance of sumbiting it, just for this turn.

1 player missing would be ok, but 2 out of only 7 left in the game by now a bit too much IMHO, especially since we had almost none stalled turns by anybody in this game up until now.

Is everybody ok with it?

Regards,
Stormbinder

Zapmeister · #2 September 13th, 2004, 08:40 PM

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Stormbinder said:
Is everybody ok with it?

Sure. In fact, I'd vote for more time every turn.

archaeolept · #3 September 13th, 2004, 09:17 PM

yeah true. we should go to 48 hr QH sometime reasonably soon, because the damn game is starting to get complicated

quantum_mechani · #4 September 20th, 2004, 02:50 AM

I've trigger cheat detection in an SP Mackaka when I was alchemizing the income from many fire fetishes.

Stormbinder · #5 September 20th, 2004, 09:25 PM

Hey guys.

There are some temporary troubles with Throne of Heavens game. I've changed settings (increasing this turn's timer a little bit), but when I've tried to restart the game it tells me "game has been successefully restarted", but in fact its status is still "stoped". I've tried it several times, giving it time to implement the changes, but with no success so far.

I've send email to Mose, waiting for his reply now. I'll post here as soon as I'll get more information. Hopefully the game will be restarted soon. Stay tuned!

Stormbinder · #6 September 21st, 2004, 05:52 PM

The game is up and runing again, new turn 54 have been hosted.

My thanks to Mose for the quick intervention!

Stormbinder · #7 September 21st, 2004, 07:56 PM

Since the game is geting increasingly more complicated, and since some people have been asking for it, I am switching the game to 48h quickhost, if it is ok with everybody.

quantum_mechani · #8 October 5th, 2004, 08:07 PM

Ok, probably won't change anything, but here is my point of view:

Storm has indeed been conducting very aggressive diplomacy in this game, and I had already been considering a war with him at some point simply due to his obnoxious attitude. When Arch offered a combined victory agreement (presumably because he was also feeling the same annoyance at the diplomacy), this was a main motivation. In addition, from the graphs, he seemed the most powerful nation and it did not seem like the war was any kind of automatic win. Apparently Storm was also not sure how good his chances were, as he waited until 3 turns into the war to decide to quit. Lastly, I do dislike late game, and thus I saw the war as way of killing 3 birds with one stone.

The bottom line is that I do not consider it unfair to ally against arguably the most powerful nation, who has also threatend my nation in the past.

A final note on WQs: I have seen both the Queen of the Deeps and The Queen of the Lake under his control at different times. As far as know, neither myself or Arch has killed one. If Mackaka killed one, my mistake.

Stormbinder · #9 October 6th, 2004, 12:38 AM

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quantum_mechani said:
Ok, probably won't change anything, but here is my point of view:

Storm has indeed been conducting very aggressive diplomacy in this game, and I had already been considering a war with him at some point simply due to his obnoxious attitude. When Arch offered a combined victory agreement (presumably because he was also feeling the same annoyance at the diplomacy), this was a main motivation. In addition, from the graphs, he seemed the most powerful nation and it did not seem like the war was any kind of automatic win. Apparently Storm was also not sure how good his chances were, as he waited until 3 turns into the war to decide to quit. Lastly, I do dislike late game, and thus I saw the war as way of killing 3 birds with one stone.

The bottom line is that I do not consider it unfair to ally against arguably the most powerful nation, who has also threatend my nation in the past.

A final note on WQs: I have seen both the Queen of the Deeps and The Queen of the Lake under his control at different times. As far as know, neither myself or Arch has killed one. If Mackaka killed one, my mistake.

LOL. I have no idea what you saw quantum but I never had 2 WQs, only one. Always had. You can see it swiming in the sea this turn, right under your nose. Not you, not Machaka, not Marignon haven't killed any WQs of mine. The only 2nd WQ that ever existed in the game was yours.

You could not possibly see 2nd WQ under my control. And in the future at least have a decency to put "I think" when you write such statements. You would look better than, trust me.

I don't know how you could feel that I was the most powerfull nation when I was trailing Mictlan in all indicatiors except small lead in gold income and province number, while I unlike him I had been engaged in the difficult war for many turns. But whatever. I did wait for 3 turns trying to see if the situation was possible to salvage, simply because I invested a lot of time in this game, so I didn't want to quit immideatly, despite you turning FFA game into "team game". But I told you and Arache what I think about your "alliance victory" option very clearly, and you know what you have replyed to me, don't you?

And this is not just my opinion, as you can see from this thread Izaques (R'leh player) feel the same. I think Marignon also would join the same sentiments, although I am not going to speak for him myself, he can do it himself if he'll decide to it.

Finally QM if you really don't understand the difference between temporarely alliance, and "alliance victory", I suggest you think again about it, before posing more of your "facts".

And if you dislike endgames in Dom2 so much as you say you do, I would recommend you in the future to stay away from the games against veteran players played on medium or large maps, or if you do play them find a sub for yourself at the end, instead of spoiling the game for other players.

Cainehill · #10 October 6th, 2004, 04:22 PM

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quantum_mechani said:
Ok, probably won't change anything, but here is my point of view:

Storm has indeed been conducting very aggressive diplomacy in this game, and I had already been considering a war with him at some point simply due to his obnoxious attitude.

What? Stormwhiner, oops, sorry, it's StormQuitter isn't it, anyways, Storm being obnoxious? Say it ain't so!?!

And quitting in this manner, in a game which he (as always) called for "no quitters", is just the icing on the cake. He even says, "I could still struggle for a very long time in this game, since I have a lot of different resourses, unique artifacts and strong overall position, but such "endgame" simply does not make any sense for me."

Hey Stormie - how is this different from other people quitting when they're in a losing position, even though they could "struggle for a very long time", because it "does not make any sense" to them because it ain't fun anymore?

And putting the responsibility on other players to find a substitute for your quitting self? That's adding churlishness and childishness to blatant hypocrisy.

Yay! Three cheers for good old Saint StormBinder, people!