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Old September 16th, 2004, 09:52 AM
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PDF Graeme said that sacrificing for Blood cancels the normal temple check .
I were your opinion but Graeme's points against it were really good . But you are a more experienced dominionplayer than i iirc you played even dominion 1 so here Graeme's main points perhaps you find something i overlooked and Graeme has forgotten

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First Abysia can sacrifice blood for dominionpush too but it spreads also by its temples etc. normally . So Abysia spreads dominion if it wants to even stronger than Mictlan.
The effect of a temple is washed out by the effect of blood sacrifice. A mictlan priest with a jade knife, which is something Abysia has trouble forging, is the equivalent of 4 temples. An anathemant salamander costs 200 gold to get the same effect when blood sacrificing.

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If you would play Abysia BoH Sanguine Acolyte costs "only" 100 gold too and is not capitol only too.
Sure, but blood of humans can't take a magic scale, takes an 5% gold hit in all their their provinces other than the capital, and can't summon devils without a fire magic booster.


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Old September 16th, 2004, 10:14 AM

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I didn't know sacrifice precluded temple check, so my experience ain"t that good !
However sacrifice leads to 1 check PER SLAVE, so it's still more effective (and simpler mm-wise!) to use it with Abysia than Mictlan...

As per the Abysian debate : Abysia rocks in early game, their unit are clearly superior to all except Jotuns IMHO. Plus the fact that you can throw fire all around them without any bad effect (they're also immune to Flame Arrows, my Last Marignon opponent still reminds this ! )
The sacred LW isn't much useful, and Bless strategies aren't worth their cost with them I think.
They are bloody devil summonners as much as Mictlan also, but without all the crap base Mictlan troops
Their problems is that all their unit are bloody expensive too, their mages are capitol only, and they suck at research (due to high cost, limited production and need for hunters). Mictlan OTOH doesn't have those...
BoH theme is IMHO much better at bloodhunting and research (considering however they can't have above Magic 0 they're just "correct", not "good"). The sacred GP *is* quite correct however and BoH can use effectively a Bless strategy.
I agree with you that they're less good at summoning due to their lower grade mages, they need pretender support to start off.
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As per the Abysian debate : Abysia rocks in early game, their unit are clearly superior to all except Jotuns IMHO.
Dont forget,that BoH Heavy Infantry has clearly worse stats than the Heavy Infantry of the basic theme.
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I didn't know sacrifice precluded temple check, so my experience ain"t that good !
It doesn't, and I didn't say that.
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PDF Graeme said that sacrificing for Blood cancels the normal temple check.
No, I said that when you sacrifice 4 blood slaves a turn, or sacrifice three and have a temple that works normally you get the same effect.
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PDF Graeme said that sacrificing for Blood cancels the normal temple check.
No, I said that when you sacrifice 4 blood slaves a turn, or sacrifice three and have a temple that works normally you get the same effect.
Hehe then i misunderstood you there .

I have to admit too that Abysian infantry is not that bad .
But what i don't like about that is that it doesn't fit too well with the watchtower strat i like .
I should try out a nonwatchtowerstrat i know

So thnx again for your helpful tips graeme .
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