What is the etymology of your moniker?

[dogscoff]

I've been told that the root of my real life first name (Tyrel) is that of the Scandinavian god of battle (Tyr). You're into mythology, is that true??

Yes, Tyr was a norse (viking) war God, who was the general of all the Aesir's (the Gods') armies. His most famous story is the one with Fenris the Wolf, a giant monster sired by Loki (the ambiguous trickster God) and a giantess. Fenris had a sibling called Jormungund, a giant snake that circled the world with his tail in his mouth. Anyway, Fenris was growing bigger and bigger and hungrier and hungrier, and the Gods were afraid of him, so they decided to tie him up.

They tied him up, but he broke the bonds, so they tied him up again with stronger chains, but he broke those too. In the end they had some magic chain made that wold be strong enough, but this time Fenris refused to be chained up. They said it was just a test of strength and that they would untie him if he couldn't break it, but he didn't trust them and still refused. In the end they only got him to agree to being chained up by saying that one of them would put their hand into his mouth as a symbol of faith. If he failed to break the chain and they refused to untie him he could bite off that hand. Tyr volunteered for the job and lost his hand, but Fenris stayed tied up until Ragnarok, the final battle, where all bonds are undone. Fenris was mutually killed by Odin in the final battle, IIRC. I'd have to check my sources about that, it could have been Thor.

Anyway, the story with Tyr and Fenris is probably where the Italians get the phrase "In bocca al lupo" (into the mouth of the wolf) meaning "Good luck".

Othaglot & Cane readers may feel a nagging recognition at the phrase "Bocca al lupo". Chapter 23. A stylised Jormungund appears as the symbol of my Viking shipset, and in the O&C story as a symbol of the Jormungund clan. Coincidence? I think not...

Read the O&C story here. It's just a few clicks away from the shipset, too.


EDIT: Now that I think about it, "In bocca al lupo" is probably more to do with the story of Romulus and Remus, the orphaned twins who were raised by wolves and subsequently went on to found the city of Rome. Oh well.

[Raging Deadstar]

If I recall correctly...

Thor kills Jormungand but dies of the snakes poison afterwards.

Odin is killed by Fenrir, but one of Odin's Sons kills Fenrir to avenge his fathers death.

I'm pretty sure thats it, But I haven't brushed up on my Norse as much as i should

[Timstone]

Raging Deadstar said:
...But I haven't brushed up on my Norse as much as i should

Bad archaeologist!

[Raging Deadstar]

Arakiel said:
You guys are kidding right? Your not ACTUALLY reading that much into every little thing typed on this goofy thread are you? If the people here are THAT sensetive to every little thing put down and have to super analyse every word typed then this may be the Last post I bother making here. Which is kinda sad cause it seemed like a nice forum about the game. Life is serious enough, I don't need BS like this on some goofy forum thread for a game.

Put Bluntly, there are people on this forum who are Schizophrenic. I won't name them as It's their life and it shouldn't be talked about without consent. It's not us super-analysing anything, it's the fact you could be offending somebody here who has Schizophrenia.

To name one of these people: Me. I'm not offended by remarks like that but it is annoying when people inadvertently say something not true about the condition. I'm just saying be careful what you say on those kind of topics, If arguments erupt it spoils the community, and we rarely have them here.

Timstone: I noticed you edited your original message I dread to think what my favourite Dutchman said that he had to edit...

[Arakiel]

Raging Deadstar said:
Put Bluntly, there are people on this forum who are Schizophrenic. I won't name them as It's their life and it shouldn't be talked about without consent. It's not us super-analysing anything, it's the fact you could be offending somebody here who has Schizophrenia.

To name one of these people: Me. I'm not offended by remarks like that but it is annoying when people inadvertently say something not true about the condition. I'm just saying be careful what you say on those kind of topics, If arguments erupt it spoils the community, and we rarely have them here.

Whatever man, I'm really not interested in arguing over it. Let's just say that I don't prescribe to the "Don't say anything or you might offend someone" level of PC behavior and call it a day. I'd much rather talk about SE.

[Aiken]

Raging Deadstar said:
Put Bluntly, there are people on this forum who are Schizophrenic. I won't name them as It's their life and it shouldn't be talked about without consent. It's not us super-analysing anything, it's the fact you could be offending somebody here who has Schizophrenia.

We have people with some disabilities, does it mean that I can't say anything about my health condition?

Somebody can have problems with weight, so no conversations about fat food?

etc etc etc

Man, that beats everything...

[Raging Deadstar]

aiken said:
We have people with some disabilities, does it mean that I can't say anything about my health condition?

Somebody can have problems with weight, so no conversations about fat food?

etc etc etc

Man, that beats everything...

Actually it was the fact he completely mixed up two different conditions, as Narf pointed out below. This all started with the media wrongly using the word and you'd be suprised how many people make the same mistake, which can cause hell I can tell you, Ignorance breeds Ignorance. Try and tell someone you're schizophrenic and too many think you are some "crazy person" who has multiple personalities.

In Other words, discuss it all you like, but please if you want to use somewhat inappropriate references get them correct at least!

But lets not hijack the thread too much.

Fyron: "An Historian" I think is correct, it's one of those words I think, at least I do when speaking.