OT: Debate

[Gandalf Parker]

Colonel said:
Aren't these political thread suppose to goto the general forum??

Nahh they can stay in SEIV. Doesnt matter here.

Anyways Govener Bushey, I swear hes a studdering monkey. This is how he sounded I....uh....and..um. He would take an extra 30 seconds and not explain anything, And yet according to an unbaised poll i've looked at Bushey is still ahead overall the US.

Well at least he doesnt "flip flop" He stays resolute to his convictions no matter what anyone says, no matter what anyone proves, and no matter what he based his judgement on has fallen by the wayside since then. THATS what we need in a president. Fantacism.

Im not voting for Kerry as much as Im voting against Bush.

[parabolize]

Youre working hard to put food on your family. -George Bush Jr.

Don't vote for either. Get funding for the Green party.

[Colonel]

Gandalf Parker said:
Well at least he doesnt "flip flop" He stays resolute to his convictions no matter what anyone says, no matter what anyone proves, and no matter what he based his judgement on has fallen by the wayside since then. THATS what we need in a president. Fantacism.

Im not voting for Kerry as much as Im voting against Bush.

WOW I swear this is the reason the democrats need to hit back on the flip flop thing. BUSHEY FLIPED TOOOOOOO At first he was against Home LAnd sequrity but was swayed by Congressional Leadership. Thier were a few taxes that he supported but was stopped by his rich friends. IS that who you really want running the country. A person who can be pushed over by Republican Leadership or Big Bizness

[boran_blok]

Colonel said:

WOW I swear this is the reason the democrats need to hit back on the flip flop thing. BUSHEY FLIPED TOOOOOOO At first he was against Home LAnd sequrity but was swayed by Congressional Leadership. Thier were a few taxes that he supported but was stopped by his rich friends. IS that who you really want running the country. A person who can be pushed over by Republican Leadership or Big Bizness

Saecrh the web for a file named 4-28-03-bushvbush-hres.mov (if you google it you can find it on the first page that comes up) that settles the point on flipflopping for me, it's like if people change their minds it's a bad thing, imho people should be allowed to change their minds, wether for worse or better (and that also depends on your point of view) but if nobody changes their minds about anything we wouldnt even have to have any debates because everyones mind would already be set on whom they will vote (an it seems that is the case already for 80% of the americans, because they will not sway from their oh-so-beloved political party)

if you didnt notice i'm critisizing both sides here.

[Gandalf Parker]

boran_blok said:
Saecrh the web for a file named 4-28-03-bushvbush-hres.mov (if you google it you can find it on the first page that comes up) that settles the point on flipflopping for me, it's like if people change their minds it's a bad thing, imho people should be allowed to change their minds, wether for worse or better (and that also depends on your point of view) but if nobody changes their minds about anything we wouldnt even have to have any debates because everyones mind would already be set on whom they will vote (an it seems that is the case already for 80% of the americans, because they will not sway from their oh-so-beloved political party)

if you didnt notice i'm critisizing both sides here.

Yeah that was kindof the point I was making. Another word for "flip flop" would be flexible, another word for "determined" would be fanatical. Most of the flip-flops mentioned on Kerry sound pretty reasonable when you look at them. There were always changed situations, or changes to what was originally agreed on when he said he would go one way, or perfectly good details involved with changing his mind. Sounds like a good thing to me. Even if he WERE weak willed it would amount to listening to his advisors which would be a good balancing factor.