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October 2nd, 2004, 07:27 PM
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Re: OT: Hostess Gone Bankrupt!
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True, higher fat intake menas more colesterol and a greater risk of heart desease.
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Another myth. Helps to sell low-fat junk food sells if people think it is "healthy", and help the pharma industry, nothing else.
Fat alone does not increase cholesterol to dangerous levels. One of the most significant factors that increases cholesterol level is stress, for example. Also, cholesterol alone has absolutely no impact on heart diseases. Only in conjunction with other factors, like smoking or overweight. To blame cholesterol for heart diseases is like to blame petrol for car crashes.
Amazing how many americans believe they are eating healthy if they eat artificial everything instead of real food. Buying food was always one of the biggest problems for us when being in the USA. Apart from the usual problems with different taste in bread and coffee. Saltless salt, fatfree fat, sugarfree sugar - it took long to find anything without this junk. Supermarkets with thousands of types of coke and other pops, but no mineral water. Healthy? Argggh.
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October 2nd, 2004, 07:44 PM
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Re: OT: Hostess Gone Bankrupt!
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Supermarkets with thousands of types of coke and other pops, but no mineral water. Healthy? Argggh.
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Haven't noticed such a problem in California...  At least, not in the Last decade or so.
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Another myth. Helps to sell low-fat junk food sells if people think it is "healthy", and help the pharma industry, nothing else.
Fat alone does not increase cholesterol to dangerous levels. One of the most significant factors that increases cholesterol level is stress, for example. Also, cholesterol alone has absolutely no impact on heart diseases. Only in conjunction with other factors, like smoking or overweight. To blame cholesterol for heart diseases is like to blame petrol for car crashes.
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Actually... using too much fat and cholesterol can lead to becoming obese, thus increasing the risk of heart disease. Same with using too puch petrol. Drive too fast, increase the risk of an accident.  These are not the causes of the respective problems, they are just the instruments used by some dangerous activities...
Also, I should point out that, in California at least, these unhealthy eating trends are coming to an end. Or at least being reduced... there is a lot of drive in the fast food industry for better, healthier food, for example. Not as served by the giants (eg: McDonald's), but by the increasing popularity and quantity of fast food restaurants that serve higher quality food that is not junk.
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October 3rd, 2004, 04:30 AM
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Re: OT: Hostess Gone Bankrupt!
gimme freaking wheat bread, white bread is sugar and bleach
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October 3rd, 2004, 02:12 PM
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Re: OT: Hostess Gone Bankrupt!
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gimme freaking wheat bread, white bread is sugar and bleach
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There is some filler material in there as well...
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October 4th, 2004, 12:22 AM
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Re: OT: Hostess Gone Bankrupt!
To be fair, white bread is on the same level as most breads in the grocery store. If you want something healthy go with "whole grain" and watch out for things that say "whole wheat".
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October 4th, 2004, 04:13 AM
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Re: OT: Hostess Gone Bankrupt!
I once squished a peice of store bought white bread. It squished down to around a millimeter.
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