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Old October 18th, 2004, 03:08 AM
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Fliers can leave the castle even if it's besieged. They just fly away.
Ummm.... they can't. Just doubled-checked to be sure. Put winged shoes on sauromancer in a besieged castle and nothing. he can't move. He's not an 'intrinsic' flier, but that shouldn't matter.
Sneaking flyers can sneak away, but that wasn't a sneak order in the game I wrote about.
Yes they can. I checked it also and in one of my MP games I had my VQ fly from besieged castle attack a neighbouring province to prevent enemy retreat. It worked like a charm.
Maybe being "intrinsic" flier really does matter, or maybe something changed in most recent patch.
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Old October 18th, 2004, 03:36 AM
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I am pretty sure that flyers cant fly away from a besieged castle, while stealthy troops can even if they do not sneak but merely move!

I am besiged in a current MP-game as caelum, and my seraphines can 'move' away, while my seraphs cannot. I think that this is also on purpose, since a stealthy unit should be able to sneak out and attack another province, hence the sneak/move should be independent on the starting provinve.

Nevertheless, I assume a bug: A seraphine cannot leave a sieged castle with assigned troops and she looses her sneak order when getting troops assigned; but she does not lose her 'move' order if she gets troops assigned - so I am curious whether my non-stealthy blizzard warriors could leave the sieged castle being led by the stealthy seraphine... (havent seen the next turn by now)
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Old October 18th, 2004, 04:14 AM
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I am pretty sure that flyers cant fly away from a besieged castle, while stealthy troops can even if they do not sneak but merely move!

I am besiged in a current MP-game as caelum, and my seraphines can 'move' away, while my seraphs cannot. I think that this is also on purpose, since a stealthy unit should be able to sneak out and attack another province, hence the sneak/move should be independent on the starting provinve.

Nevertheless, I assume a bug: A seraphine cannot leave a sieged castle with assigned troops and she looses her sneak order when getting troops assigned; but she does not lose her 'move' order if she gets troops assigned - so I am curious whether my non-stealthy blizzard warriors could leave the sieged castle being led by the stealthy seraphine... (havent seen the next turn by now)
I've just made a test and it seems that we were all right.
Normally, a flier can't leave a castle. However if a flier has stealth ability he can even if he's not sneaking. That's why my VQ could go in and out at will even while attacking.

Sorry for the confusion.
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Old October 18th, 2004, 03:48 PM
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I can confirm the bug now: A stealthy commander set to move out of a besieged castle can take non-stealthy units with him! (all were flying, but I dont think that this is important) I post it in the bug thread as well...
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