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Old October 21st, 2004, 06:16 AM
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Bleh. The original is better.
I hope so. The two French translations I know of are both as bland as my aunt's chicken & tapioca soup. I still managed to read the whole thing.

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I would like to have Kalevala in the game.
My favorite bit was Kullervo's story. If you ever add a Kalevala-ish nation or theme, be sure to have him as a hero, who's either cursed, or curses people around him (a la Pocket Lich), or causes misfortune in the province he's in.
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translations I know of are both as bland as my aunt's chicken & tapioca soup. I still managed to read the whole thing.


Obviously you didn't used that melodic Finnish accent you have to use when reading Kalevala in swedish*. I was expecting more from you. Unless you shape up there will be no more beta testing for you.

*Including pastiches, even if crappy.
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Old October 21st, 2004, 04:05 PM
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Obviously you didn't used that melodic Finnish accent you have to use when reading Kalevala
Hmmm, not sure where that comes from, but I have a faint rememberance the poem was supposed to be recited aloud by two different persons, and I think they had to be sitting or standing on a bench as well. I never owned a bench, never found another person willing to recite it with me, and I assumed it was all the license I needed to read it in petto.

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Ow. That seems hopeless. I'm not even sure Sibelius composed anything but symphonic or chamber music, so maybe my best chance to develop a Finnish accent would be to trade my current cell phone for a Nokia.
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After seeing Gandalf's list of themes/ideas that already exist in Dominions I started to think. I found two theme/ideas that I don't think already exist: culture that values spartan way of life, resistance to pain, strength of body and mind strong enough to control it perfectly. Another one has been in side-role many times, but never really the main thing of a race: monasteries. I think they would go well together:

*only light to medium infantry, but very skilled and not expensive
*sacred heavy infantry, if it is made different enough from Heart Brothers
*monk/eunuch mages and leaders, also quite skilled

I don't know what magics I would give them, but some levels of Earth could represent the hardiness of theirs. No Death, as the dead should be given rest, but maybe a path with strong summons. Astral could be, but more for the spiritual/divine guidance than for any 'real' reason. Maybe nature, as monks often worked as healers and herbalists in the middle ages.

I would like the leaders being viable choice for casting some personal buffs and going to front line, but they would have to have many hitpoints, extreme skills or be way too cheap. I don't know of a real theme for it, so it it more of an idea than a nation ready enough for a mod, but anyway...
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I'd like to see nations modeled on the Persians, Mongols, and Indians.

Persia was one of the great empires of antiquity and battled it out with the Greeks and Romans for centuries. They had a rich mythic and magical tradition and should be easy to make a nation out of. Fire, air, and hoards of bowman for starters.

Mongolia would be tougher to do in DomII since light cav is such a crappy troop type, but perhaps DomIII will address that.

India is a huge chunk of the world and home of all kinds of exotic mysticism. I don't know much about ancient India, and it might be hard to isolate a mythic thematic thread, but something could be done.

A Celtic nation might be good too. Man has a wiff of it already, but i'd like to see more of a pure dark age celtic thing instead of Romano-Celts.

Carthage or the Phoniceans (the "sea peoples") might work.

I like the suggestions above for the Shogunate and a real Eygptian nation.
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India is a huge chunk of the world and home of all kinds of exotic mysticism. I don't know much about ancient India, and it might be hard to isolate a mythic thematic thread, but something could be done.

Yeah, they should feature the Karmic(sp?) wheel: all troops and/or commanders are immortal, but only so that when they die (in own domain) they reincarnate as different troop/commander based on... what? Luck? Productivity? Other scale? Experience? This is where my imagination fails me.

Of course, this requires a whole new system to implement - but then again, I'm no dev.

And cows as sacred troops! Yeah.

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Actually, Mongol Empire = Barbarian Kings T'ien Chi, if I'm not mistaken, and Persia is also included in Arcoscephale.
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How about based on Indian (Hindu) myths?

Or based on Native American or Eskimo myths?

A Zoroastrian/Persian type thing could be fun, too.

Or some sort of race that normally inhabits another plane of existence/dimension but has managed to manifest themselves on “this” plane/dimension. I'm thinking of something supernatural, but not undead.

Arabian knights type stuff would also be very cool.

Just some vague stabs in the dark...
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Or some sort of race that normally inhabits another plane of existence/dimension but has managed to manifest themselves on “this” plane/dimension. I'm thinking of something supernatural, but not undead.

You mean...like R'lyeh ?

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How about based on Indian (Hindu) myths?
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[...] or Eskimo myths?
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A Zoroastrian/Persian type thing could be fun, too.
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Arabian knights type stuff would also be very cool.
I've made mods for all of these (Arabian Nights has Zoroastrian-inspired mages after its conquest of 'Persia'), although only the Arabian Nights is complete. Except for the sprites: I'm so terrible with drawing tools, I gave up making them. It took me 5-6 hours to make the sprites I've attached (Arabian 'Mystic' on flying carpet), and this is my only decent attempt so far.

Someone, please help me! I need cute sprites for Mamluks, drugged war elephants, polar werebear shamen and penguins!
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