Cultural Modifiers

#1 June 25th, 2001, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by Jubala:
I decided to test and see what Cultural Modifiers actually worked and created a culture with a 50% bonus in everything.

Good work! Thanks for doing it! My Workers culture not getting the bonus bothered me, but not enough to do a mod. Now the REALLY BIG QUESTION is why the beta testers can not do simple things like this to check out functionality. I suspect that this has been very well known for some time but it has not been considered important enough to fix. Send your mod to MM and everybody lobby for a fix in the NEXT patch.
Something this game needs is a known bugs post by MM listing the priority assigned to bug fixes. Post it on the forum and read the reactions to see whether the priorities are ok.

Q · #2 June 25th, 2001, 05:55 PM

Very good work Jubala, thank you.
I knew about the non-working production modifier but that the space combat modifier does not work was new to me.

PsychoTechFreak · #3 June 25th, 2001, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by suicide_junkie:
Dammit WHY?!?

We could have just changed one value in settings.txt to fix the problem, if we wanted it fixed! Some of us like playing with no maintenance, and this just sucks.

There's still hope for my Nomads, though... has anybody tried running P&N under the 1.41 patch?
Do I have to post a copy of the 1.35 patch with my mod?

It definetely is hardcoded to 5% maintenance now, in another Thread (AI without maintenance) I have tried to vote for a button in game settings to disable this...

Jubala · #4 June 25th, 2001, 06:19 PM

I'll mail my findings to MM as soon as my ISP's bloody mail servers decides to join the living again. Damn thing is down for the second time in a week now!

JenMax · #5 June 25th, 2001, 09:44 PM

Yes, Jubala, I do understand the difference between CULTURAL modifiers, and other empire characteristices. I was concerned BECAUSE racial points, (shold more properly be called "empire points?"), etc. all feed into one another. Juggling them has become a mini game within a game. So perhaps, me thinks, the problem with cultural modifies MIGHT also overflow into the others. I am glad they do not. One less thing to fix...Thank you for all the work on ascertaining what works and what doesn't. I appreociate it.

Lucanos · #6 June 25th, 2001, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by JenMax:

...racial points, (shold more properly be called "empire points?")...

Finally someone who understands me.

quote:
Originally posted by Jubala:

I decided to test and see what Cultural Modifiers actually worked and created a culture with a 50% bonus in everything.

Maybe some culture modifiers doesn't work properly if you increase the bonus too much (50% in this case would be "too much")?

I know some modifiers doesn't work if you put a negative value on them. Sometimes the game won't execute correctly if you play around with the cultures.txt the way I would to.

Has anyone confirmed Jubala's great effort? (I'm asking since I'm too lazy to try it myself)

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PsychoTechFreak · #7 June 25th, 2001, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by Lucanos:

Has anyone confirmed Jubala's great effort? (I'm asking since I'm too lazy to try it myself)

LCC has, at least for production modifiers:
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/For...ML/003051.html

I'm going to change every culture to neutral, cause I'm too lazy to find a new balance... I think the cultural modifiers are sometimes not fairly distributed also (compare Schemers to Xenophobes, who would like to be Xeno ?).