Newbie Slug Fest - Mose Hansen game - ENDED

DragonFire11 · #1 October 27th, 2004, 01:38 AM

Oh, well you see I never really read these Posts closely. So that said, and to conform with the rules that were so obviously insufficiently promulgated, I hereby select, um, uh, er . . . Caelum. I so declare and sayeth that I have never ever played this race, or even met this race in battle, and I have never seen a player actually win a game with this team. I bet they are a bunch of sissy little do-gooding angles that don't actually believe in doing real work, you know the bloody stuff. All tips, especially prior to god formation, are welcome. And no, I'm not going to consult some intel forum to get the lowdown - remember I don't believe in real work.

Grim Knight · #2 October 27th, 2004, 06:50 AM

As far as Zen's Spell Mod goes I think it is a little too much of a work in progress, it makes some pretty significant changes to Spells and Summoned Creatures. If a majority wants to go with it that would be fine but my vote is for pretender mod only.

Mods: Zen's Pretender Only

Also not everyone has voted yet so those who have not should either announce an abstination, or vote for any aspects of the MP setup that they feel strongly about.

Thank You,
Grim Knight.

deccan · #3 October 27th, 2004, 07:01 AM

Let's do a retabulation:

Original Slugfesters:

Grim Knight - Marignon (host)
Panther - Abysia
Steerpike - Jontunheim
Pasha Dawg - Pangaea
Deccan - C'tis
Dragon Fire - Caelum (what, you want to get attacked early again?)
Krool Death - TBD

Baboune - Declined
Beorne - Not heard from.
Pickles - Not heard from.

New slugfesters:

Cainehill - Mictlan
Aku - Pythium

AFAIK, the current vote tends towards use of Zen's Pretender Mod, very difficult research, indies 9. Map choice should probably be Last after we get a final player count and see if we have any underwater nations.

deccan · #4 October 27th, 2004, 07:09 AM

And a note on victory conditions:

I find that a game with no victory conditions is too tedious. People will drop out rather than complete the game, so some kind of victory condition is probably best.

I've played a couple of games with VP based victory conditions, and I kind of dislike it because once a nation gets started, it's hard for the rest of the players to team up to stop this kind of victory because allied armies can't team up together to defend a weak VP province and everyone is forced to castle VP provinces.

This is why I prefer a victory condition based on a percentage of provinces controlled because no one can possibly castle everything and still expand unless they're already well ahead of everyone else.

I think the % of provinces required should probably be more than 50%, to give other players more of a chance to turn the tables, and less than 2/3 like I said earlier.

Grim Knight · #5 October 27th, 2004, 07:19 AM

Below is a listing of all the votes so far:

Grim Knight's Votes

Map: TBD
Mod: Zen's Pretender Mod v1.81
Victory: 2/3 Provinces
Sites: 50
H o F: 15
Research: Very Difficult
House Rules: Play a Nation you have never played MP before.
Indep Strength: 9
Host Speed: 24h QH
Graphs: Off
Everything Else: Leave at Default

Race: Marignon

Steerpike's Votes

Research: Very Difficult
Indep Strength: 9

Race: Jotunheim

The Panther's Votes

Map: TBD (Not Tyrande)
Mods: Zen's Pretender 1.81
Victory: Half the provinces
Sites: 50
HoF: 15
Research: Very difficult
House rules: Must take nation with no MP experience
Indies: 9
Score graphs: off
Host: 24h QH

Race: Abysia

PashaDawg's Votes

Map: Aduria (this map suggests victory point conditions)
Number of players: 10-12 (Aduria has a lot of room for water nations).
Mods: No (Later said he would not mind the pretender mod)
Victory: 2/3 or 60% Province Victory (Counted as 2/3 in Tally)
Sites: 45 or 50 (Counted as 50 in Tally)
HoF: 15
Research: Very difficult
House rules: Must take nation with no MP experience
Indies: 6
Score graphs: off (graphs off can be very fun)
Host: 24h QH

Race: Pangea.

deccan's Votes

Map: No preference.
Number of players: No preference.
Mods: Zen's Pretender Mod. (I know we had at least three GKs in this game, and it would be nice if there were a little more variety.)
Victory: More than 50% of provinces but less than 66% of Provinces
Sites: 50
HoF: 15
Research: Difficult (I already have a very difficult research game going. I can do another one, but be warned, it just means that everyone will take a fire 9 or water 9 blessing, which can be boring in its own way.)
House rules: Must take nation with no MP experience
Indies: 9 (punishes people who get too reckless about fast expansion)
Score graphs: off

Race: C'tis

Cainhill's Votes

Map: Not Tyrande

Race: Mictlan

The following Players have claimed a Race but have not voted on any other aspects.

KroolDeath's Votes

Race: Vanheim

Dragonfire's Votes

Race: Caelum

Aku's Vote's

Race: Pythium

If I got anything wrong or missed anything please let me know.

Again those who have not voted on anything other than race should either announce that you are abstaining or vote for any and all aspects of the MP setup that you feel strongly about, (Cainhill and Aku should feel free to vote as well).

I am going to try to PM Beorne and Pickles to see if they are interested in another game.

Thank You,
Grim Knight

Grim Knight · #6 October 27th, 2004, 07:42 AM

I am going to start the server now as the MP settings are not asked for until after all pretenders are uploaded.

The only difficulty that there may be with my server is the fact that I do not have an entirely static IP Address.

However since the IP only changes when my Cable Modem is power cycled it should not be a problem. The power goes out in my area only very rarely, and I never power cycle the modem myself unless there is a problem with my connection which is also very rare.

If there is a situation that results in a change of the IP I will be as prompt as possible in posting an update to this forum thread, or if we open a new thread once all the particulars of the game are sorted out, I would post to the new thread.

So anyone who is ready to upload their pretender may do so at the following address and port:

IP: 69.10.97.69
Port: 65000

Game Version on the server is 2.14

Remember though there is no hurry to upload pretender's as not everyone has voted on settings yet so the game will probably not be starting for at least another couple of days.

Thank You,
Grim Knight

PashaDawg · #7 October 27th, 2004, 09:19 AM

Quote:

deccan said:
And a note on victory conditions:

I find that a game with no victory conditions is too tedious. People will drop out rather than complete the game, so some kind of victory condition is probably best.

I've played a couple of games with VP based victory conditions, and I kind of dislike it because once a nation gets started, it's hard for the rest of the players to team up to stop this kind of victory because allied armies can't team up together to defend a weak VP province and everyone is forced to castle VP provinces.

This is why I prefer a victory condition based on a percentage of provinces controlled because no one can possibly castle everything and still expand unless they're already well ahead of everyone else.

I think the % of provinces required should probably be more than 50%, to give other players more of a chance to turn the tables, and less than 2/3 like I said earlier.

Ok... you convinced me. Victory based on % of provinces controlled sounds better. I'm not too picky, but I think that either 2/3 or 60% would be better.

PASHA

Steerpike · #8 October 27th, 2004, 11:52 AM

I revoke my selection of Tyrande as a map, Pasha said it was pretty and ... well ...I like pretty things OK!

I'll play it in single player for fun.

It's better to wait until everyones chosen anyway. Interestingly no ones chosen a water nation yet that could have an effect.
Choosing very difficult research might be an advantage for Jotun, so go for it boys.

Beorne · #9 October 27th, 2004, 12:07 PM

I want to play too!!
I'd like Man, and my only preferencies are:
- a not too huge map (for Man only-capitol problems)
- and using the Zen's Pretender Mod v1.81
Thank you!

The Panther · #10 October 27th, 2004, 02:02 PM

Quote:

DragonFire11 said:
Oh, well you see I never really read these Posts closely. So that said, and to conform with the rules that were so obviously insufficiently promulgated, I hereby select, um, uh, er . . . Caelum. I so declare and sayeth that I have never ever played this race, or even met this race in battle, and I have never seen a player actually win a game with this team. I bet they are a bunch of sissy little do-gooding angles that don't actually believe in doing real work, you know the bloody stuff. All tips, especially prior to god formation, are welcome. And no, I'm not going to consult some intel forum to get the lowdown - remember I don't believe in real work.

OH NO!!!!! The rain of false horrors once again! Maybe we should have let him keep Arco...

Anyway, as for advice on the pretender, I have a nifty Ghost King design for Caelum that has already been highly proven in battle. The only problem, he cannot be used under the Zen mods, which is actually a GOOD thing.