What is a golem?

Wauthan · #1 October 27th, 2004, 04:50 AM

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Endoperez said:
Naah, Cyclops was too expensive. I would have to take Cold 2 or 3, and that would put the Cyclops at disadvantage. Production AND Magic severely limit the scales you can take down. Dragon was somewhat cheaper, and immune to cold, but it was hard to expand rapidly and research fast when your only ressearcher is a dragon... and I had to dump Earth 4, so the Vanir took hit from cold instead.

I tried Caelum, and they have Son of Niefel. He seems to be best chassis for Water9-Earth4. Temple Guards rock, a frontline of 7 of them held heavy cavalry of the first farmlands I took, and I think they even killed most of them. Unfortunately, my prophet was on 'hold' rather 'hold and cast', so they weren't blessed... I lost 2.

Still, Claymen are quite weak as they have bad def and even less prot I thought. 25 hps don't help much. I don't think W9E4 for claymen and uber-Temple Guards are competitive enough in serious multiplayer. If I could take him with Vanheim it could be worth it... Anything with W9 and Vanir can't totally suck!

If you are going Clayman you're better of with Atlantis-Nereid with Water9. Earth sites are suprisingly common underwater and you just need 50 of them for her to start cranking them out by the dozen.

In the MP game where I went "clay" I had two armies with about 400 Claymen in each. Sadly I didn't use Golem Cult and the small force (around 80 Claymen and 20 casters) in my capitol didn't Last against the massive amount of undead the Orchish Empire threw against me. With twice the HP (dom 10 in HQ) and with a few other "golemish" bodyguards things would have been different.

rylen · #2 October 28th, 2004, 12:09 PM

I've been focusing on early golem production w/ Machaka still. Currently using F4W4A4 Son of Sun to expand quickly and the cultures nature and earth gems for Lumber and Crusher constructs. They're good damage sinks, even if they don't attack that accurately. I had good sucess w/ a W2E9 cyclops where I rushed to E6 for Statues which seem far better.

Corpse Man Construction does not produce golems.

Rylen

Endoperez · #3 October 28th, 2004, 01:38 PM

I have had great fun with W9E4 Daughter of Land and Machaka. She can pump out quite a number of claymen, has high starting dominion and generates her own gems! A simple Water Sword gives her defence of 16 which becomes almost 18/19 (?) without shield. Hide/Eye shields have 0 enc. and can be done with national gems, but earth shields would work too, esp. after she can Summon Earthpower. And Ironskin with a shield (weightless tower shield, IIRC) gives her nice protection.

Next, I will try... dual W9E9 Daughter of River!

Endoperez · #4 October 28th, 2004, 02:06 PM

Ah, pity... I can afford to take W9E9 with Golem Cult. E9W4 or smthng Cyclops could be interesting, still.

rylen · #5 October 30th, 2004, 02:22 PM

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Endoperez said:
I have had great fun with W9E4 Daughter of Land and Machaka. She can pump out quite a number of claymen, has high starting dominion and generates her own gems! A simple Water Sword gives her defence of 16 which becomes almost 18/19 (?) without shield. Hide/Eye shields have 0 enc. and can be done with national gems, but earth shields would work too, esp. after she can Summon Earthpower. And Ironskin with a shield (weightless tower shield, IIRC) gives her nice protection.

Next, I will try... dual W9E9 Daughter of River!

Nifty. What scales are you using with her? I tried Fortress (60), Golem Cult, Heat 3, and a touch of order and barely managed Dominion 4. Its a neat idea, but how do you afford the Big Spiders when you've got her?

Rylen

Endoperez · #6 October 30th, 2004, 02:53 PM

I decided it isn't worth doing. You have to have Order, Magic and Golem cult. That leaves you for scales to use for extra points, and you need lots of money for those Black Hunters...

I decided to try E9 Cyclops with Water 4-9, depending from points. That reinvigoration would be really nice for Pythium, but I'm trying to use C'tis too. Both have access to cheap communicants, and C'tis has better holy unit. That would also allow me to try and use Poison Slingers. And C'tis can use Enchanment much better than Pythium.

Zooko · #7 October 29th, 2004, 07:53 PM

Well, what's the answer? What things are golems?

Ironhawk · #8 October 30th, 2004, 02:43 AM

Golems are constructed beings that are endowed with a certain level of intelligence.

Edit: Oops! I thought you were asking for a definition. I dont know the official list of whats a golem and whats not. :}