Magic Scale

Vicious Love · #1 November 5th, 2004, 08:42 AM

Sooo... anyone here take drain with any nation other than Ulm?

PrinzMegaherz · #2 November 5th, 2004, 10:42 AM

Ulm would be the one to benefit most from the rule.
However, making the drain scale would actually allow for new strategies.
You could try to play a nation relying on normal troops that woild be competitive even later in the game, because they would still have a chance against enemy creatures (at least in their own territory)

Cainehill · #3 November 5th, 2004, 11:09 AM

Except that, as proposed, the other players would all have even more of a reason to take Magic-3, and would use the 'feature' that would let the critter keep its extra HPs when coming straight from a magic province into a drain one. (Just like pretenders and prophets going from high dominion to negative, where the HPs stay around a while.)

So, Ulm's troops would actually tend to be fighting summoned creatures that were even nastier than usual, wouldn't you think?

Truper · #4 November 5th, 2004, 11:24 AM

The best candidate for a drain scale other than Ulm is in my opinion Jotumheim - and I have used such a strategy with them, but not in quite some time. My reasoning is this: Jotun has, well, giants... and this means a couple things. First, they don't need to rely on battlefield magic for early expansion. Second, giants are hard to deal with without a lot of magical aid, so hurting an enemies' ability to use magic makes some sense. Jotun also has easy access to skull mentors to overcome the research penalty. The reason I stopped using the strat is that I'd much prefer my death gems be going into Wraith Swords...

archaeolept · #5 November 5th, 2004, 12:16 PM

yah, i tried that in SP as well. But the loss of death summons/forging is just too dear. As well default Jot at least is one of the nations which most benefits from some positive magic scale (since 55gp for 3 research becomes the luscious 55gp for 5 research under magic 2).

I have no idea what zen might be trying out in his scales mod in order to make drain a plausible choice for nations other than ulm.

PrinzMegaherz · #6 November 5th, 2004, 01:22 PM

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So, Ulm's troops would actually tend to be fighting summoned creatures that were even nastier than usual, wouldn't you think?

But that has nothing to do with the generell idea. Besides, there would be certain ways to counter it: Building castles at the border, and Attacking the enemy forces after they entered your dominion.

Another proposal: Drain works like diseased. As long as the summon stays inside the drain territory, it will loose HP and might get afflictions (because its dissolving).