Double the Ulm, double the fun!

Edi · #1 November 12th, 2004, 05:31 PM

Endoperez, you can get around the modding starting spell by making a specific map file and specifying startiong spells there. You can add to existing nationals, but can't remove existing ones with the map command (need mod commands to do that, I think).

Edi

Endoperez · #2 November 12th, 2004, 08:36 PM

Okay, thanks for that. So we need that program I mentioned earlier. I quote it here:

"For this to be really worth the effort we (= I, hint hint ) would need a program that chooses the starting provinces of the nations by scanning the .map file and clears those provinces, adds a fort of the right type into it, adds special magic sites and new national starting units as well as the right pretender to it (some might not be needed, though). If that program would be made it would be great if you also were able to make .pr files which would contain province info. It would have terrain needed for the province (eg. forest for druids), rarity, defenders by Dominions name/id and numbers in correspondance to each other/changable variable similar to Dominion's indep. power. Also commander orders and rarity.

Program could be used to create a new, modified .map file in which the provinces would be hardcoded to whatever the program had randomized. Each run of the program would make different maps, even with the same choices and files.

This would make it easy to add quite spesial provinces, eg. "Dragonspine Mountains" defended by Beast Trainer in command of some fire drakes, Abysian Infantries and Humanbreds. There would always be two times as many Humanbreds as Abysians and Drakes together, so their numbers would be 1, 1/4 and 1/4 or something similar. There would always be a Volcano in this Common Unique province, so the map randomiser program would only put one of these in the map, but it would be somewhere almost always."

If we got a program like that we could, as an example, define Unique Quaranteed province Ulm that can only exist on forest, mountain or maybe a province bordering mountain. We would also define the map commands that would be written to the .map file, and with this define the starting spell. Mapping and modding put together, added to a quite a deal of randomization... Any volunteers?

PDF · #3 November 13th, 2004, 01:15 PM

About the heroes issues ; IIRC it's easy to have Ulm heroes with modded Ulmish Abysia, this only requires putting the Ulmish heroes stats/icons with the Abysian heroes'ID in the mod file

Endoperez · #4 November 13th, 2004, 02:06 PM

I know, but this would not work if Ulm replaces something else than Abysia. I wish we will get modding commands for easily creating new heroes, but ATM I won't be doing through the hassle of checking all the heroes of all the nations and see if they can be replaced.

PDF · #5 November 13th, 2004, 07:13 PM

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Endoperez said:
I know, but this would not work if Ulm replaces something else than Abysia. I wish we will get modding commands for easily creating new heroes, but ATM I won't be doing through the hassle of checking all the heroes of all the nations and see if they can be replaced.

I'm not sure I follow you... Anyway your mod have to be nation-specific, and the hero description you have to put in the mod don't change, only the ID has to... Where's the problem ?

Sure that not getting heroes isn't a big penalty to Ulm and its crappy heroes, but for nations such as Jotunheim it would be more of a problem.

Endoperez · #6 November 14th, 2004, 05:56 AM

If there was a program that could write mod files, changing the heroes of nation with heroes of other nation, I might go through the heroes of all nations and create a file(s) for it to work. But I'm not going to do 17 Versions (one replacing heroes of one nation with the heroes of the nation that replaces it) for every nation replacement mod I will do.