OT:Why Aliens dont come here

narf poit chez BOOM · #1 December 8th, 2004, 09:12 AM

I have yet to be offended; I have been angry, annoyed, peeved, confused and worried, but I'm not offended. I was simply worried about the possibility. As for my anger...It's a familiar problem.

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The name of this thread is crystalclear and you can expect to find alternate believs in this thread.
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I think you are a little tired, my friend, because this is the one about aliens.

As for the roman 'absorpsion', would that include forcing nearly everybody to worship the emporer?

I would also like to say that intollerance and discrimination are two of the foundations of civilization. First, a civilization cannot tolerate crime, and then a civilization must discriminate between the criminal and the innocent, untill the punishment is over. (Barring certain circumstances, like ex-criminals in the police force, which would certainly be difficult if one wished to permit it.)

They are certainly not bad words.

Timstone · #2 December 8th, 2004, 09:21 AM

Hahaha... great answers Narf!
This is one of the reasons I really love this forum. he people are inteligent, tolerant and very funny. They always make me smile on a bad day (especially Raging Deadstar, but that's another story).
I really appreciate your answers.

As for worshipping the emperor concerns. I don't know if you should give one person absolute power. I could be good, it could be bad.

But back to the aliens.
Maybe they have already visited this planet and feld it in terror. We poison ourselfs and our planet and we play very bad music on the radio. ALso most of the programs on the tube aren't worthwhile. Nah, they're long gone...

narf poit chez BOOM · #3 December 8th, 2004, 09:54 AM

Just to make it clear who I'm responding too:

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Timstone said:
Hahaha... great answers Narf!
This is one of the reasons I really love this forum. he people are inteligent, tolerant and very funny. They always make me smile on a bad day (especially Raging Deadstar, but that's another story).
I really appreciate your answers.

As for worshipping the emperor concerns. I don't know if you should give one person absolute power. I could be good, it could be bad.

But back to the aliens.
Maybe they have already visited this planet and feld it in terror. We poison ourselfs and our planet and we play very bad music on the radio. ALso most of the programs on the tube aren't worthwhile. Nah, they're long gone...

Bad.

As for aliens, if you havn't watched Men In Black, go watch it at the next available opportunity. But not MIB 2, which suffered from the problem of many sequals. It had some good points, but not enough. Just a let-down.

There are scenes in MIB that make it a classic...

Kamog · #4 December 9th, 2004, 01:15 AM

Yeah, I agree MIB was a lot better than MIB II.

Sivran · #5 December 9th, 2004, 02:40 AM

I would like to clarify, that in the face of apparent atheism-bashing and glorification of religion on the part of Starhawk I was simply trying to provide examples in which religion was the primary or sole cause of violence. I was in no way defending atheism nor was I trying to say that atheists don't commit violence.

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Aliens haven't visited because our stargate is buried and it takes too long to get here by ship!

Starhawk · #6 December 9th, 2004, 03:23 AM

Not glorification, defense, Religion does cause a lot of crap but it's not the "main provider" of crap in the world so to speak

You can't blame "religion" or "atheism" for violence in my opinion you can only blame people.

[Edit] Oh and big deal the dictionary defines Fart as letting wind fly lose from the anus, but IT'S NOT WIND IT'S GAS!.(you'd be suprised the strange stuff I looked up in the dictionary when I was 10

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Anyway my point is the dictionary does describes things on a broad basis and does indeed include as part of religion as "anything you follow with zeal" yet 90% of people I talk to (not all christians as I have said many times) say that it's generally only something that beleives in a god or some form of creator.

Anyway you guys let's stop the fussin and the fuedin and agree that we all have our own seperate opinions and that that's okay (best southern accent) and get back to discussin them little green men.

narf poit chez BOOM · #7 December 9th, 2004, 04:04 AM

GREY! I tell you, they are GREY! AND ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE SHALL BE LOBOTOMIZED!

Fyron · #8 December 9th, 2004, 04:56 AM

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Starhawk said:
Not glorification, defense, Religion does cause a lot of crap but it's not the "main provider" of crap in the world so to speak

You are reading what you want to read... Noone said that religion was the "main provider of all crap in the world," just that it is often a major player, which it is. Generally, it is more from intolerance fostered by some religions putting themselves up as the only true religion, with all others being wrong, than the religion itself preaching death and destruction... At least, in the modern post-WWII world...

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[Edit] Oh and big deal the dictionary defines Fart as letting wind fly lose from the anus, but IT'S NOT WIND IT'S GAS!.(you'd be suprised the strange stuff I looked up in the dictionary when I was 10

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Actually, it is wind... Few words have one single meaning to them...

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Anyway my point is the dictionary does describes things on a broad basis and does indeed include as part of religion as "anything you follow with zeal" yet 90% of people I talk to (not all christians as I have said many times) say that it's generally only something that beleives in a god or some form of creator.

That is a huge logical fallacy. Just because a lot of people think something does not make it true. In this case, it is absoultely, 100% wrong. No gods or creators of any sort are required to classify a belief system as a religion. Spiritualistic belief systems that do not have any gods, but instead have guiding animal spirits, or ancestor spirits, or other such spirits, are most certainly religions. Belief systems that solely revere and worship nature, not in the form of a god, but just nature itself, are most certainly religions. Belief systems that have no divine, but instead view that we are all part of the universe experiencing itself in different ways, are religions. Belief systems that focus solely on achieving personal spiritual enlightment as a means to leave behind the perpetual cycle of reincarnation and enter a "heaven," and have no "divine" to speak of, are religions. The list goes on. God worship is just one tiny fraction of the spectrum of systems that are qualified as religions...