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December 17th, 2004, 10:28 AM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
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...and i´m having nightmares about how much time i will have to wait until SEV arrives to me since my friend in not in the US anymore but back in Brazil...
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I could serve as the middleman. No problem.
Just remind me when the game is out, I tend to forget those things. 
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serious? so can you send an e-mail to me at stevaoaccadrolli@uol.com.br so i have your e-mail to contact you when the game comes out to arrange details?
Thanks Timstone! I now can sleep less troubled at night! 
BTW: i´m posting my e-mail in public so anyone of this forum that wants can contact me...
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December 17th, 2004, 10:44 AM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
Makinus, have you purchased anything from Shrapnel since SE4 Gold? I thought they got those international shipping probelms straigtened out. I could be wrong though.
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December 17th, 2004, 01:05 PM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
 Umm.. yeah... I don't understand. You go to the website, you see that's it's available, you order it, it shows up at your house, you install it on your computer, you play the game.
Please explain to me where a p2p comes into this tried and true process (?!)
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December 17th, 2004, 01:58 PM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
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Umm.. yeah... I don't understand. You go to the website, you see that's it's available, you order it, it shows up at your house, you install it on your computer, you play the game.
Please explain to me where a p2p comes into this tried and true process (?!)
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December 17th, 2004, 03:50 PM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
The law is full of many apparently disconnected things that do apply here. They end up asking "was reasonable effort made to comply with the law". It comes up in everything from mean dogs, to icey sidewalks, to stores displaying adult material, etc etc. What is reasonable effort or unreasonable effort. In the case of things like P2P software, or reMailer software, or disc copying software, its going to come up as an effort to change the direction from writing it so that NO accountability can possibly be done to writing in some ability for accountability.
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December 17th, 2004, 05:55 PM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
Going after the BT sites is only a peice of the picture. Take a good look at the DMCA, here's a link to an excellent analysis. In a nutshell, the big corporations want you to have no fair use rights. Look at your game collection, how many of us make a back-up copy just as soon as we buy a game? Well if your games were movie dvds or music cds and RIAA/MPAA had their way those back-ups would be illegal.
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December 17th, 2004, 06:04 PM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
Somebody will have to explain to me why this is a bad thing. Why do we assume that we have an inalienable right to make copies of software, even for backup purposes?
I'm trying to make a corellation to some other product we use in our lives, but it doesn't really translate well. We don't have magic boxes that we can stick our shirts and dishes into and have instantaneous perfect duplicates come out the other side.
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