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January 3rd, 2005, 10:58 PM
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Re: XP or Linux
OS Ready status, according to independent research conducted by AIII (Aiken's Imho International Incorporated)
Linux:
DVD video: 99% (-1% because of DRM and other closed stuff, which rarely used)
Web: 99% (-1% because of ActiveX, doesn't matter unless you go for bank services Online)
Games: 10% (directX support is pathetic, but some games go multiplatform these days, ie Doom3, UT 200x).
Win NT 5.x (xp or 2k)
DVD: 80% (-20% because _really_ good dvd soft is nonfree)
Web: 20% (-80% due to spyware, trojans, viruses, blackholes....)
Games: 99% (-1% because linux games don't run in windows  ).
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January 3rd, 2005, 11:34 PM
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Re: XP or Linux
FYI, the developers of wine, the free package on which WinEx was based, *are* working on a port of DirectX, so Linux gaming should improve... sometime  In the meanwhile, there's always the free CVS "bleeding edge" Version of WinEx - no guarantees like the commercial Version, but you can't beat the price 
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January 4th, 2005, 12:32 AM
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Re: XP or Linux
I would go with XP Pro
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January 4th, 2005, 02:08 AM
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Re: XP or Linux
XP Pro. Has the best featureset and UI I've used with any OS, and that includes MacOSes. Of course, XP Pro is what I've grown used to.
Win2k is another good option, but its not as good as XP in my opinion. Don't buy XP Home.
If you do go Linux, use KDE UI
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January 4th, 2005, 12:57 PM
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Re: XP or Linux
Thanks everyone, it took a while to read through all of the Posts.
XP seems like the only reasonble choice for a gamer, in the near future.
Actually - being able to play old Favorites like MOO 1 is a requirement.
Why XP pro over XP home? I thought that pro just had some remote admin hooks in it.
What about dual boot Linux and XP? Which installs first? Are different drive (formats) needed?
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January 4th, 2005, 03:22 PM
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Re: XP or Linux
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XP seems like the only reasonble choice for a gamer, in the near future.
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Not at all. 2k plays modern games and a lot of older games without issue, 98 plays all older games without issue. XP costs you a lot of money and won't be able to play all older games anyways.
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Actually - being able to play old Favorites like MOO 1 is a requirement.
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Games like that you can likely get working in Wine or Cedega (with a bit of work). A lot of DOS games run under 2k, but others don't. It is hit and miss. No guarantee that it will run under XP either. 98 is the only way to be safe for old DOS games. With 2k or XP, DosBox is a good (and free) DOS emulator for those old DOS games, and assuming you have a computer with more than a few hundred megahertz CPU, it will work just fine.
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Why XP pro over XP home? I thought that pro just had some remote admin hooks in it.
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Home is terrible. Try to avoid it. I don't remember all of the specific reasons, but a quick google search should turn up plenty of sites about the differences.
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What about dual boot Linux and XP? Which installs first? Are different drive (formats) needed?
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Not a bad option. Different drives formatted with different methods are certainly needed. Install XP first, as Linux is fine recognizing XP as another OS, but XP doesn't like Linux... Of course, there is no need to get XP just for games. Just set up 98 as the other OS for your games.
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as for linux package. suse mandrake etc... are good distro's
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Nah. Debian all the way. Start coming by #SpaceEmpires again and you will know why. 
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January 4th, 2005, 04:21 PM
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Re: XP or Linux
Fyron said:
"...Of course, there is no need to get XP just for games. Just set up 98 as the other OS for your games."
Aiken said:
"OS Ready status, according to independent research conducted by AIII (Aiken's Imho International Incorporated)
Linux:
DVD video: 99% (-1% because of DRM and other closed stuff, which rarely used)
Web: 99% (-1% because of ActiveX, doesn't matter unless you go for bank services Online)
Games: 10% (directX support is pathetic, but some games go multiplatform these days, ie Doom3, UT 200x).
WELL, I have got to admit that not feeding MS has a certain appeal. I own Red Hat stock
SO, providing I can find hardware drivers... Linux would be better for DVD video/audio, and be more secure for web surfing too.
WIN98SE can run the current games, but may not be supported in the furure.
Just how would I get started on the dual op system?
My Win98 drive is 27GB partioned C  p and D  ograms.
I have norton internet security + anti virus on it.
I could buy a larger drive for Linux/DVD.
What do I use for firewall security and antivirus on Linux?
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January 4th, 2005, 05:11 PM
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Re: XP or Linux
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Home is terrible. Try to avoid it. I don't remember all of the specific reasons, but a quick google search should turn up plenty of sites about the differences.
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I have neither Home nor Pro, but I'd like to know why the Home edition is so terrible.
I did a google search but couldn't find that big differences for home user.
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January 4th, 2005, 05:26 PM
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Re: XP or Linux
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Why XP pro over XP home? I thought that pro just had some remote admin hooks in it.
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Home is terrible. Try to avoid it. I don't remember all of the specific reasons, but a quick google search should turn up plenty of sites about the differences.
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I have two machines, a desktop running XP Pro, and a laptop running XP Home. There is no difference between the two that would be noticed by an independent user (e.g. not a corporation running an intranet). Unless you run a large intranet and are concerned with pushing policy changes on your network clients, you don't need to spend the extra money on Pro. Just run a decent firewall and a/v, and you'll be fine. And you'll be able to run 99.99% of the software available, unlike Linux.
There are plenty of sites around that will help you with detailed guides on how to tweak XP for best performance, reliability and security. www.tweaktown.com is one that I can remember off the top of my head.
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