OFF TOPIC - The IOC sucks.

Atrocities · #1 July 22nd, 2001, 10:48 AM

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the Chinese are not stupid.

Indeed they are not, however, when the TV cameras are gone................. How many will pay once the spot light has been turned off?

CW · #2 July 22nd, 2001, 02:05 PM

Atrocities, check out my two Posts near the beginning of this thread.

CaptSpoogy · #3 July 22nd, 2001, 06:38 PM

Dragonlord - try Canada. There always looking for skilled IT workers and it's a lot easier to immigrate here...

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Quikngruvn · #4 July 22nd, 2001, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by capt_spoogy:
Dragonlord - try Canada. There always looking for skilled IT workers and it's a lot easier to immigrate here...

I'd consider that myself it weren't so fricking cold!

Quikngruvn, who has never experienced more than six inches of snow at one time

Puke · #5 July 23rd, 2001, 01:03 AM

the thing that i dislike the most about the US (not that i dislike the US, but i figured i would chip in for the other side of the argument.. only fair.) is that people dont like the police. the average citizen is trained to distrust and be afraid of the police. its a huge cultural problem, and part of the problem is with the civilians and part is with the police.

I think that the whole anti-authority mindset is what leads to all the youth-violence we have in the States. Other countries that have more open attitudes where someone can ask a friendly question to an officer on a street corner dont seem to have the rampant problems with inner city gangs and school violence that we have.

Dragonlord · #6 July 23rd, 2001, 02:41 AM

Spoogy, I actually spoke to a recruiter in Toronto Last week, they had an interesting open position. But when they heard I was not a US citizen (let alone Canadian) they said it would be too difficult paperwork-wise. They also said that getting a work visa in Canada is equally hard as in the US...unless you're American. Odd, they almost made it sound as if they were a northern province of the US rather than a country in its own right.

ZeroAdunn · #7 July 23rd, 2001, 06:36 AM

Speaking as an American (one who is born in america is of course an american, just like someone who is born on mars is a martian, so don't try and say I am not an american.) I find some of these comments rather insulting.

To adress one comment earlier, why shuold we care about humans rights and civil liberties in some country half way around the world, well, becuase they are PEOPLE. You should care about the world around you, and the people most of all because they are your kin, maybe not directly but we are all one people, and to only care about oneself is selfish.

And another thing, if we weren't going to care about those around us, why the hell should we care about the government. And not all americans drive SUV's and spray arasole cans into the air for fun. I for one ride a bike most of the time, and encourage those around me to do it as well. And we are taking steps (maybe small ones but you have to start somewehere) to decrease pollution, recycling is up, incinerators are steadily going the way of the dinosaur and mass transit is being pushed more and more.

As for the biggest problem in our country, it's not regulating american run industry in foriegn nations, this causes major explotation problems and causes many american industries to move out of the country.

As for our election system, it's fine, the problem is big buiseness and interest Groups are exploiting it with money. A situation easily fixed if it wasn't for the fact that it benefited the politicians, who are the ones who would fix it.

Which brings me to another point, there aren't supposed to be politicians in america, it was originially set up so that being a politician would be something you just did, not a job.

Another thing, about Lucanos' comment about america being a dictatorship, it is not. It is more like neocolonialism, only in this case the government is merely a puppet to itself and corporate america. And one more thing Lucanos, propaganda is propaganda, you can't take it worth ****, it is skewed, if you want the facts you must look deeper.

Maybe native american's were here first, maybe my ancestors did take their land, maybe it was wrong, here slit my rists, lord knows that it's only right that I should pay for the sins of my ancestors. I'm sure your ancestors never did anything wrong!

As for poverty, of course there is poverty in our country, there is poverty in every country.

Not that I am saying america is superior, no nation is superior. Perosnally do not believe in government, or organized religion for that mater (organized religion is just another attempt at government but claiming it is gods will.)

Oh yes and a comment earlier, something about this day and age countries should moving towards democracy? What the hell? Whoever said democracy is the ultimate form of government? In reality communism is, that is true communism, where there is no real government and everyone gives of themselves to benefit their neighbor. And don't give me any crap abou thats not communism, cause that is communism as it was originally intended, countries today that claim to be communist are generally more facist or socialist than true communist.

Please don't generalize your statements, I don't look down on anyone that I don't know, (of course upon meeting people a realise they are idiots and proceed to look down on them) And to those who believe we need government or organized religion, they are wrong, china opporated mostly without organized religion and government for a long time. It wouldn't have been a nice place to live, and then along came religion and look where china is now. Seriously, look it up.

It seems as a lot of people here have a 'holier than thou' attitude. No person is perfect, no government is perfect, but mostly no person is perfect..... dagnabbit.

- just another long rant from Zero.