Suicide Junkie: pls read, about b5 armor system

[Ragnarok-X]

Oh well. Actually the point is that im participating in the Last and only babylon 5 pbw game, which is played by 7 players. I have yet to see a ship using the armor system either to effect or in a way described by SJ and Fyron. People simply do not REALIZE how it should work, even if i see your point.
Right now all ships i have seen just use 1kT component to fill the ships space (i.e. you have 8kT space left, so you pack 8x1kT armors), 3kT and 7kT are not used at all.
In addition people pack one "main" armor each of damage-reducing armor, thats about it.


About your
"Light armor only will also mean the shadow battlecrabs get crippled by the E.A. way too easy. "
Well, simple as it is, Shadows and first ones in general will of course get special armors which have a high damage-reduction-ability.
Since all of the armors dont have the "armor" ability, they will not destroyed first. Due to the massive size-resistance relation, they will most probably be destroyed at Last. Since they will Last that long, the damage reduction will be provided until the end, so even more damage resistance through light/normal/heavy armor is not even needed, it will already take quite long to just destroy one ship, given average armor vs average weapon, where the damage decreasement will be about 25% (or whatever).


I would so like to hear more opinions on this, apart from SJ, Fyron, Timstone and me. People who actually played the mod.

[XenoTheMorph]

Well from what I can tell with all this verbal going on
and my crude knowlege of the similar but simpler Adamant armour -

If you use mostly 1kt (smaller) armour:

Your ships will take More hits before being destroyed BUT they will also take More internal non-armour damage early (i.e. bridges, sensors, & weapons will be much more likely to be destroyed early in combat)

If you use mostly 7kt? (larger) armour (10kt in Adamant, more intuitive since we use base 10 numbers ):

Your ships will take Less hits before being destroyed BUT they will also take Less internal non-armour damage early (i.e. bridges, sensors, & weapons will be stay functional untill later in the combat)


I hope I got that right and it was understandable!

[Fyron]

Ragnarok-X said:
Oh well. Actually the point is that im participating in the Last and only babylon 5 pbw game, which is played by 7 players. I have yet to see a ship using the armor system either to effect or in a way described by SJ and Fyron. People simply do not REALIZE how it should work, even if i see your point.
Right now all ships i have seen just use 1kT component to fill the ships space (i.e. you have 8kT space left, so you pack 8x1kT armors), 3kT and 7kT are not used at all.
In addition people pack one "main" armor each of damage-reducing armor, thats about it.

Just because people are horribly misusing it doesn't mean the armor system is flawed. It just needs better explanation...

[Timstone]

Fyron:
No not always are the players the bad side of the equation.
The players have decided (or better yet, found out) that:
- The armor is too big to use in the way it was intended
- The hulls are too small
- The other components are too big
- Or a nice mix between the three foregoing options

Kosh said:
"Truth is a three-edged sword, your side, their side and the truth."

[Fyron]

The basic armors are about the right size...

[Timstone]

Well the game has decided different.
But it never hurts to try and change the description. Maybe that was the faulty thing after all.

[Fyron]

Timstone said:
Well the game has decided different.
But it never hurts to try and change the description. Maybe that was the faulty thing after all.

By basic armors I mean the ones without abilities...

[Timstone]

I'm afreed I haven't played the B5 Mod for a long, long time and I never used more than light armor on my ships because of the huge researchcosts involved. I always used light armor and late game medium. Despite the fact I knew more or less how the armor worked.
I used the bulk heads quite a lot actually. I used then to fill up a hull untill it was just under the maximum resource limit for my constructionyard. This allowed for a maximum used buildingtime and a stronger ship. Although it had a higher maintenance rate.

Well at least we´re getting somewhere with this discussion. I´m sure we´re able to work our something for the armor. Some adjustments to this system.

For this night I say: Good night gentlemen, sleep well! And watch out for the .