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January 11th, 2005, 10:12 PM
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Re: Human vs Top AIs
Master Belisarius writes:
>> Please tell me your game settings...
Large quadrant, Galactic Edge (?), 1 Average Planet (2000M pop) but not all players required to start with the same planet size. Low research start, default costs. 2000 point game, took "Propulsion Experts" Advanced Trait on the theory that Advanced Storage was too advantageous. I min-maxed only to the point of diminishing returns, e.g. Strength 80%, not 50%. Aggression and Defense default. Intelligence, Mining & Construction 120%, Maintenance 110%. Cunning, Farming, Refining, Political Savvy & Repair were all 80% as I recall. The rest were default or below, because somehow I raised enough points to take "Hardy Industrialists". Culture was Scientists.
It occurred to me later that starting with Medium Homeworlds may have been a mistake. I suspect the AIs are much less adept than a human at dealing with a lack of resources, hence the slow growth of the three AIs I've met so far.
>> You should play with at least low bonus
Well, I dislike AI "cheats", but if that's what it takes...
>> and yes, the AI vs human it's a challenging option
Good news.
>> but maybe you are ready to play in PBW and meet human players!
BWAHAHAHA! Good one, MB!
Seriously, so far I've been using Tactical Combat all the way. I know this gives the human a big advantage, but at this point I just can't stand for the game to run my precious ships, even under my general direction.
Maybe after I've learned more about Strategic Combat...
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January 12th, 2005, 06:33 AM
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Re: Human vs Top AIs
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Master Belisarius writes:
>> You should play with at least low bonus
Well, I dislike AI "cheats", but if that's what it takes...
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The Terrans, EA and Narn for one are optimised for "no bonus"-games. They use the resources more sparingly which puts them at a slight disadvantage in games where there are AI boni since they don't use them to the full extend possible.
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January 12th, 2005, 06:29 PM
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Re: Human vs Top AIs
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>> You should play with at least low bonus
Well, I dislike AI "cheats", but if that's what it takes...
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Ok, this is the main reason because you had not a decent challenge...
All the AI races I have designed, are optimized to play with AT LEAST low bonuses (specially the Tessellate because it's a "combo" race).
Also, remember to select High Difficulty... because if not, the AI will not use all the ministers!
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January 13th, 2005, 04:27 PM
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Re: Human vs Top AIs
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Also, remember to select High Difficulty... because if not, the AI will not use all the ministers!
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I did not know this!
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January 13th, 2005, 06:54 PM
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Re: Human vs Top AIs
Aquilaeian vs United Flora.
The UF won by points at the turn 500. It was a weird game, where the AIs doesn't wanted to attack...
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January 14th, 2005, 06:44 PM
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Re: Human vs Top AIs
Verduran vs Tessellate.
The Tessellate won without problems, at the turn 250.
Pyrochette vs United Flora.
As expected, the UF won. They killed the Pyrochette at the turn 280.
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January 15th, 2005, 04:59 PM
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Re: Human vs Top AIs
We're nearing the end.
Who do you think will win and also how long do you expect the Last game will Last?
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January 15th, 2005, 10:14 PM
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Re: Human vs Top AIs
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We're nearing the end.
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 Yea! Think my computer will be happiest than anybody else to finish the games!
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Who do you think will win
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I'm pretty sure the final will be between the United Flora and the Tessellate.
But I'm not sure who of them would win, because I was not playing test games between them, then, only can guess...
Think the Tessellate has the advantage, thanks the armor skip weapons...
In the other hand, although I did several improvements into the Tessellate's scripts, we can't miss that the UF won the final in the Death Match 2, without problems.
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and also how long do you expect the Last game will Last?
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I'm considering to run a play off for the final: the first AI to win 4 games will be the winner.
Think will be able to run the final in 3-4 days.
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