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Re: New Galactica Series
Somebody mentioned the voice over opening... If I recall, Olmos gave a good portion of this in the rousing finale speech at the end of the miniseries.
Which I would take as a nod to the prior show.
Everybody needs to remember just how bad some of our favorite shows are when they first start. In case you forget, watch the first few episodes of ST:TNG. Their sets are horrible.
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January 16th, 2005, 02:04 PM
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That's because the TNG sets were supposed to be used in a show during the 80's called "Star Trek Phase II" which would star most of the original cast and crew except with a new vulcan and some ugly arsed helmsman. That series was cancled and the set was left waiting while they shot ST The Motion Picture and the rest of the movie series, during the late 80's they decided it was time for another Trek and used the uniforms and Written scripts of "Phase II" and placed the TNG crew in the roles instead. And if the first set's and episodes are any hint as to what "Phase II" was gonna be let's be glad they cancled it before it was launched
As to BSG Yeah I do like the fact that they keep a running talley of how many people are left, I mean Voyager they had a crew of 150 roughly plus 20 Maqui, they apparently lost about 30-40 during the first few seasons where they took some pretty heavy beatings by the Kazon, later they got pLastered by the Borg which should have killed more yet didn't?
Anyway I like the new BSG because of the fact that they have very "modern" sets and nothing overly futuristic where it would just be pathetic  AND THANK YOU The Galactica is a warship NOT A PLEASURE CRUISER it has tight corridors and no frills, what was up with Star Trek and giving everyone wide open spaces and frills? Maybe that is why when their shields go down they explode, no room for armor with all those perks LOL.
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January 16th, 2005, 02:08 PM
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Re: New Galactica Series
Actually I was suprised that is not too bad. The vipers launch silently, they tried to use Newtonian physics (more or less) there wasn't too much noise in space and banking turns (stuff that makes me turn it off quick!)There was some stuff that was goofy, but the acting was pretty good and the dialog was pretty good. I'll just see how long it takes for me to stop watching it...HA-HA-- I haven't watched a series(any series)since Bab 5. Notice the weapons were all missiles or some form of projectiles, no beam weapons. I think the Battlestar Galactica should retrofit some missile launch tubes too, Vipers and point defense may not serve the rag tag fleet for long.
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January 16th, 2005, 02:09 PM
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Re: New Galactica Series
Just looked at the trailers and I must say I'm impressed.
Looks like they made quite a lot of changes moving series from space soap opera it was then (by today's standards) into space survival struggle. It really looks good and far more believable.
I remember the first episodes of old BSG and watching the destruction of 12 colonies back then had nowhere near that "catastrophic" feeling to it as it does now only looking at trailers! I'm really looking forward to this series.
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January 16th, 2005, 02:29 PM
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Yeah the original BSG was lame because 12 colonies and the entire colonial fleet were destroyed by a few fighters, yet the cylons could not bring down ONE BATTLESTAR! and a rag tag fleet of unarmed civilian targets (I mean ships).
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"If men build things to look like our penis such as towers and ships does that mean female achitects represent women having penis envy?"
A line that made me chuckle, I can't remember where I heard it I just know it made me laugh.
"I'm not really a slapper....I mainly punch and gouge."
Tammy Lee my kung fu instructor/sifu's daughter when asked if she ever slapped a boy for saying something nasty to her.
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January 16th, 2005, 04:30 PM
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Re: New Galactica Series
I think the new series looks great! It manages to be serious without going overboard. There were several converstaions I was particularly impressed with and I think the relationship between adama and the president is played out well. I was partiucarly impressed with the conversation about police/military roles conversation and Adamas speech to his son about living with your decisions.
I think the show is a lot more reall feeling then the originall. And for a pilot episode, 33 was incredible.
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January 16th, 2005, 04:43 PM
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Re: New Galactica Series
If anyone who hasn't seen it, it is on in the US at 1500 EST on SciFi - the miniseries. Today.
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January 16th, 2005, 06:41 PM
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Re: New Galactica Series
Actually, his speech at the end of the miniseries would be a nice opener with some editing. I didn't even think about it.
Voyager's cloning vats... I was amazed that so many people existed on a ship with a crew of 150-170 people. Maybe the doctor was planning to go into pLastic surgery when they got home.... Can you imagine going into sickbay and waking up as someone else. Differnt face, gender, race, species, etc. That Doctor needs to be investigated...
The sets for TNG actually did not originate from Phase II. Those sets were torn down and used for other films prior to TNG's green-light. They later built new sets for the feature films that were redressed for the tv series. Only the cooridors, sickbay, battle bridge, and turbolifts survived to TNG.
Does anyone recall Babylon 5's early season? Before they added bracing to the back of the set walls? I recall one scene where the station was hit and an extra missed his cue to tumble and hit the wall in the background. The Monitor in the wall shifted back an inch and the whole wall shook from crew member hitting it.
back to BSG,
I think at the end of "Water" They were down to 45,000 and change. considering they started with 50,000... ouch.
But I see the galactica really as something like the Carrier Enterprise (cv-65) when put up against the rest of the carrier fleet of the US. She's the old girl, over-due for refit and retirement, of the entire fleet right now.
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January 16th, 2005, 07:12 PM
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Re: New Galactica Series
I found an old tape of B5 Last night and watched it. I am appalled at how bad the sets were. It looks just like a sound stage with 3 wooden walls stuck up along the sides. I assume they spent most of their budgets on the CGI (which is the best part of course) and then skimped on sets and salaries (It is painful to watch the acting). Hey, great idea and storyline, pity about everything else.
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January 16th, 2005, 11:53 PM
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Re: New Galactica Series
I liked what I've seen so far, Its hard for me to judge as I was an Old BSG fan way back when, except for the Last year which sucked (when they found earth and killed most of the regulars off). It has good qualities, only thing which I question, (same for the original) is when the Cylons attack the fleet, they only show attacking Galactica, IMHO, they need to show attacks on the other ships more often along with damage, explosions ect. as well as the vipers trying to defend the entire fleet not just the galactica. Over all, I give it a high rating for now. Time will tell if it'll hold up, depends on how good the writers are. The actors play good parts as well as their acting overall. The eye candy, well...  Never thought I'd envy Voltar  Looks good hope it continues
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