New DS9 and STNG Ship Sets

Atrocities · #1 January 20th, 2005, 03:29 AM

Well thanks Nodachi.

Randallw · #2 January 28th, 2005, 09:38 AM

I may need to get started on my Terran Empire set. I just found out that there's an episode of Enterprise in the works visiting the mirror universe.

geoschmo · #3 January 28th, 2005, 10:08 AM

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I just found out that there's an episode of Enterprise in the works visiting the mirror universe.

*sigh* I suppose why not? I mean, continuity has never stopped them in previous episodes, why should it now? Maybe next will have Archer and Trip travel forward in time to the "Trouble with Tribbles" episode and we can see them in the same scenes with Sisko, O'brien and Warf travelling backwards from DS9. Or perhaps Enterprise can make contact with Voyager in the Delta quadrant?

Atrocities · #4 January 28th, 2005, 10:22 AM

ROFLMAO - *Sigh* - Very funny Geo, and I will bet that if they can make it work, we will see Janeway in Enterprise. LOL

OBTW, I posted the fighters and shuttles. Take a look.

Timstone · #5 January 28th, 2005, 10:23 AM

Geoschmo, don't be so negative about the flexibility of Star Trek... afterall it's a pretty rediculous idea that humans are the most influensive beings in this galaxy. Also, please don't do a search for the "science" behind Star Trek.

geoschmo · #6 January 28th, 2005, 10:47 AM

The technobable doesn't bother me at all. That's actually part of what I find appealing in Trek. And the idea of humans being a major player in the galaxy is just part of the overall story. I'm not complaining about a lack of realism, just a lack of consistancy within the franchise. We have an established history with the previous series. We know when certain things happened, and when certain races were first contacted. When Enterprise came out I was very excited about the prospect of filling in some of the blank spots and fleshing out the details of how the Federation came into being. The early episodes with the Andorians were excellent.

But then the crap with the temporal cold war, and the Ferengi, the Borg, the Organians, totally rewriting vulcan history.

Like many fans I like to view the star trek franchise as a continuum of stories set in a common universe. Like one big book with chapters written by different authors. But when stuff in one chapter totally contradicts stuff in another chapter, it just gets a little frustrating.

Timstone · #7 January 28th, 2005, 11:34 AM

Yeah, the lack of conituity in any serie is always something that annoys me greatly.
It's always present with many people writing the soties. Everyone has his/her own vision about the serie and wants to show it to the public.
I once heard, so I don't know if it is true, that thwere is a whole office busy answering questions from fans and knitting episodes (and movies) of Star Trek together. If this is true, it must be a pretty geeky job working there, not that there is something wrong with being a geek of course.

Randallw · #8 January 28th, 2005, 11:39 AM

I think the explanation is that because of the Temporal Cold War, events in Enterprise follow a new timeline. Originally the Klingon's were not initially encountered because a Klingon was being chased by Suliban taking orders from a faction in the future, and he fled to Earth. ALso when they wiped out a colony on a planet, the guy from the future said that wasn't supposed to happen. They solved it, but think of the consequences of the descendants of those people killed not affecting the future.

Fyron · #9 January 28th, 2005, 03:19 PM

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geoschmo said:
Like many fans I like to view the star trek franchise as a continuum of stories set in a common universe. Like one big book with chapters written by different authors. But when stuff in one chapter totally contradicts stuff in another chapter, it just gets a little frustrating.

The only thing consistent in Star Trek (other than technobabble) is that nothing is consistent...

Atrocities · #10 January 28th, 2005, 04:01 PM

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geoschmo said:
Like many fans I like to view the star trek franchise as a continuum of stories set in a common universe. Like one big book with chapters written by different authors. But when stuff in one chapter totally contradicts stuff in another chapter, it just gets a little frustrating.

The only thing consistent in Star Trek (other than technobabble) is that nothing is consistent...

Well said. They realized the importance of consistency way to late and lets face it, Gene Rodenburries "Reset After Each Episode" mantality. This view of star trek was put it its ulitmate test with Voyager. Endless shuttles, crew cloning, and never take damage. Hell if a ship was lost in space for 7 years, 75000 light years from home, away from resources and a ship yard, it stands to reason that it won't look brand new when it got home. Hell My car is over 8, and its been babied, yet it still looks 8 years old with ware and tare.

Well no sense in crying over spilt milk.