Balancing Wrathful Skies

[Boron]

Huzurdaddi said:
Who said anything about "oblivion"? I would love to see wrathful nerfed but not into oblivion I want it still to be a choice but I don't want it to dictate how the game is played either.

What is boring is to have one dominant strategy ( wrathful ) and have all other stratgies be a concequence of that strategy (ie: only deploy lighting immune troops ).

The VQ was hardly nerfed into oblivion. It was nerfed such that it was not the most optimal pretender. The GK filled that role and hence he should be next on the chopping block.

Yeah but that's the problem . I agree that the VQ was too good but now after the VQ is nerfed if the GK gets also nerfed then if this is continued we end up by having all pretenders having equal stats .

Especially that the nerfed VQ is now taken away from Ermor is a thing i still don't understand as well .


The problem is really to know when to stop .

If the Gk would get a small bit nerfed like 25 new path costs and Wrathful skies needs A5 or so to be cast that could be a good idea but i am still not sure if it is really necessary at all .

[Huzurdaddi]

Boron said:
Yeah but that's the problem . I agree that the VQ was too good but now after the VQ is nerfed if the GK gets also nerfed then if this is continued we end up by having all pretenders having equal stats .

Hardly. Perfect balance would be where every pretender has equal utility when employed optimally which in a rich game like dom2 != equal stats.

Chazar said:
Despite being Caelum, I found it pretty difficult to use Wrathful Skies

The classic forumla seems to be: 1 tank designed to last a good 10 turns (3 or 4 of those closing of the other side) + 1 wrathful caster with SoS scripted to retreat (for most nations this is a harbringer with Air nations they can use national mages ). This forumla, seen time and again, works wonders.

jeffr said:
Maybe in Dom3 there would be some way of capturing MP statistics on what spells/units were used the most/least. Over time, this would give a pretty good indication of what needed to be scaled up and what needed to be scaled down.

I agree, hard stats help a lot in figuring out what is going right/wrong.