Way OT: Racism

[RudyHuxtable]

I think racism is, without a doubt, the funniest of all human endeavors.

Some of us insist on spending energy they could use to feed someone who was hungry or teaching someone to read and use it to tell us how crappy we are because we have darker skin or odder accents.

Some of us think it's great to throw big huge parties and talk about how evil others of us are because we do things like listen to music with deep bass or a twangy banjo instead of putting the money that funded the rally into a bank account for their children to go to college.

And the best, the BEST of all are people who say it's cool to hate others because they don't worship the same God (or worship him a little differently) when He Himself said to love, love, love one another. Isn't that cool?!

"Let's make sure everyone knows we, the (insert dogmatic religious sect here) won't stand for people having a differing opinion! Down with brotherhood and understanding! Hooray for hypocrisy! Poopoo to individualism and harmony! Someone get me a hose with high water pressure so I can blast away diversity!"

And hey Whites! You, too, are all minorities somewhere! Check out this exotic list of incredible, racially unequal destinations!

India
Africa
China
Papua New Guinea
Thailand
Madagascar
Fiji
Guam
Japan
Palau
Middle East
Caucasia (WHERE?!)
Antartica

Wait! That means that "minority" is relative! Say it ain't so!

This very thread continues to fuel the comedy that racism is. I love it!

Hey Atrocities, did you notice that every individual you named as a hatemonger was black? Good job! Let me share a few other names with you, and shame on you for missing these greats! (We've already covered, of all people, LeVar Burton... so we'll give him a pass):

Pol Pot (Asian)
Tomás de Torquemada (Spanish)
Slobodan Milosevic (Yugoslavian, formerly)
Osama bin Laden (Saudi)
Joseph Stalin (Russian)
Adolf Hitler (Austrian, 3/7 Jew)
King Edward I (English)
al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah (Egyptian)
Emperor Alexius I (Byzantine)
Juvénal Habyarimana (Hutu)
Louis Farrakhan (Black)

And several other of history's greats (though not necessarily hatemongers, these plucky celebs validated racism):
George Washington
Nathan Bedford Forrest
the Constitution of the United States of America


I hate hate. And ignorance. But I sure love comedy.

[Sivran]

the Constitution of the United States of America

If forbidding racial discrimination at the voting booth is a validation, then this statement is somewhat true. I suppose you could say the mere mention of discrimination by "race, color, or previous condition of servitude" validates that yes, racism exists, but we didn't need the constitution to tell us that.

Otherwise, you're way off base.

[Atrocities]

I did not know this, but slavery is still very much alive and well in Aferica and parts of the middle east. This is very disturbing to say the least.

[RudyHuxtable]

Sivran said:

If forbidding racial discrimination at the voting booth is a validation, then this statement is somewhat true. I suppose you could say the mere mention of discrimination by "race, color, or previous condition of servitude" validates that yes, racism exists, but we didn't need the constitution to tell us that.

Otherwise, you're way off base.

My statement was reflecting the nature of the document prior to the Civil War and the introduction of the 13th, 14th, and 15th and, though not originally as part of my argument, 19th Amendments. I was referring to the Three-Fifths Compromise, specifically. How would you feel being considered only 3/5 human? Pretty racist legislation, wouldn't you say? How would you feel being considered only 3/5 human?

Am I still off base?

[Atrocities]

I can testify to being considered less than human and I paid the horrible price of being discriminated against. The big Red "S" (Safeway) also paid that price after four years of litigation.

It is never about money when the discrimination is real. It is about right and wrong, and brother I can tell you that Safeway was in the wrong big time.

So this is one of the overriding factors in my belief that racism is one of the ultimate forms of discrimination and should be stamped out. We are all human, every last one of us, and those to believe otherwise need a good home town, behind the woodshed, wooden bat beating to within an inch of their lives. Then tossed onto a rail road pike and rode out of town. Tard and feathered if we have time.

[RudyHuxtable]

We all need beating, but some of us need a history lesson it would seem.

The point to my entire argument is this:

If I don't like you, it's because you're a turd. Not because you wear FUBU or a burkha. Because you're an ignorant, self-centered, cowardly turd.

I don't want to hear complaining about Asian Pride Day or the Swahili Hand-holding Festival and all that jazz. Anyone ever heard of Saint Patrick's Day? It's the same thing, only with vomit and green lager. So we whites get our day--a national holiday, no less--too.

Even better for me because I'm Italian American. That means I get the Feast of San Gennaro and "The Godfather".

Hey Atrocities, I would gladly help you dish out a beating to the next turd deserving. I'll also stop buying Safeway products now that you've mentioned that.

[Atrocities]

I thank you for your kindly offer to assit in the beating of turds. It is a BYOB (Bring Your Own Bat) event that is long over do for its day on the American calander.

(I should note that I did not face racial discrimination while working for the big red S. Mine was just as personal, and just as devestating as racial discrimination, but far more humilating. I shall never forgive the SOB's responsible for it. I cannot, it is a matter of dignity that transends ones ethical beliefs far beyond his core being. No one should ever have to live with discrimination, any kind of discrimination. It simply is wrong.)

[Antarian]

I do not want to offend people.
Hi. I would like to add something to this thread. In my country (Russia) there is nothing wrong when i call a black person "Nigger". It just denotes that he is black. We do not call them Afro-Russians or something of the sort. The main idea is not to sound offensive. I may say to a person - You bookworm! And it`s ok. Or i may say - YOU BOOKWORM! And sound tooootttalllyyy different. So here - black people are blacks or niggers (does not always have to be mean or offensive). Asians are Asians (neutral) or slitty eyed (very mean). I have nothing agains over people. I am white, my girlfriend is half Indian/half Russian (unusual mixture )).
I am against only one issue. When minorities are... say... overacting... or... abusing the system. I`ve been to the States several times and i know some cases when Afro Americans simply pretended to be insulted and so on. And some innocent people had to suffer.
About slavery and stuff. Do the Americans have to pay till the last one dies out for the sins of their relatives or ancestors? Do the present generations of Germans have to pay for the WW2? I do not know the correct answer. I think that Hebrew people, blacks, and othes have to stop indulging themselves and use the system for their sole benefit.
In my country we also have different ethnic problems. Especially with people from the Caucasus.
If somebody is interested then i may outline the situation in Russia.
I repeat - I do not want to offend people.

[David E. Gervais]

BTW, remember that change takes time. And concidering that less than 50 years ago there were signs that said "No Blacks Allowed" and washrooms for "White Only" and the school system was segrigated, and a whole lot of other such nonsense were still found all over the place. You would be hard pressed to find any of these today.

I think that we are definately heading in the right direction. But like I said Change takes time, but the good news is that the 'Right' and 'Just' cause is going to win the battle.

As more and more cities and subburbs get a mixed class of people, everyone is realizing that racism is just plain stupid. But there is a side effect to this 'loss' of racism towards different colored people,.. the 'racist people having finally seen that their hate was/is wrong have felt neglected and have turned their attention towards 'other' targets that are not 'race' specific.. But I'll not bring that subject into this thread, although my position is Live and let live, To each his/her own.

Anyway, Did I say change takes time? And really, in the scheme of things, we really have made a lot of progress in short time that has passed. I'm confident that during my lifetime I will see the 'color' race issue fall by the wayside and become a thing of the past. But I'm also sure that some people will always find something to hate. And that's a sad thing.

Anyway, Nuf said, Cheers!

[RudyHuxtable]

Hey, why wait around for the next hate to arrive? My beloved friends: it's already here!

Our next great war clearly will be religious in nature, and therefore the most destructive. When you're fighting for territory it's easy to say, "Okay, look. You want the see-saw you can have it. Sheesh." But you start telling someone their God is a sissy? Lock and load, kids! We're goin' in!

What I love the most is that the three most prominent (I said prominent; not, I repeat NOT majority, you buncha ignorants) all worship the same God. But we still find something to fight about! Cool!