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February 18th, 2005, 01:32 PM
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Re: OT: Sci-Fi Founders
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For those who have yet to read the Foundation series, do so ASAP.
For thoes who have read them, ever get the feeling that Lucas read them too.
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I agree completely. Also, I don't think that any movie maker that has ever read a good sci-fi book or series was NOT influenced somehow by those books.
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February 19th, 2005, 03:23 AM
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Re: OT: Sci-Fi Founders
So long as it's interesting and not a rip-off, I don't particularly care. 
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February 19th, 2005, 04:55 AM
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Re: OT: Sci-Fi Founders
I somehow missed the Death Star in Dune, but...sure, Star Wars is a dune 'ripoff'. 
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February 19th, 2005, 05:32 AM
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Re: OT: Sci-Fi Founders
Out on a limb here, and I apologise for any spoilers, but perhaps it's because they both have the civilisations threat (or saviour, been awhile since i read foundation) as far away as is possible in a circular galaxy.
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February 19th, 2005, 01:22 PM
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Re: OT: Sci-Fi Founders
1) A great 'cycle' of civilization. In the case of Foundation it was a specific course of history predicted by 'Psychohistory' while in Star Wars it was this constant oscillating between rule by the Jedi and rule by the Sith.
2) Secret or semi-secret societies with super-human powers ruling known civilization. In Asimov's case it was the "Foundation" itself. In Star Wars it was the Jedi/Sith.
3) Hugely developed capital world where the surface is actually completely covered and no longer accessible. Trantor/Coruscant
I suspect that I could go into more detail if I wanted to re-read the series.
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February 19th, 2005, 01:53 PM
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Re: OT: Sci-Fi Founders
You might as well, then, say that the Foundation novels were ripping off the famed Lensman books. Those had a epic future history, two secret societies waging a war behind the scenes, and super-powered main actors.
Good books, too.
Or say that anything featuring powered armor is just a ripoff of Heinlein and Steakley.
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February 19th, 2005, 02:02 PM
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Re: OT: Sci-Fi Founders
What are the Foundation Novels about?
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