SE4 Scripting in Python (templatizer again)

Ed Kolis · #1 February 23rd, 2005, 01:38 AM

OK, version 3.0.3 is out...
http://home.fuse.net/koliset/Program...izer-3.0.3.zip

I've fixed lots of bugs... though I still haven't tried actually loading any of the generated files into SE4... I wonder if SE4 will choke on the UNIX formatted files, since I forgot to tell it to place the carriage return after each newline like Windows prefers...

Aiken · #2 February 23rd, 2005, 05:26 AM

Do I still need a EEE part to get it to work?
I can't find calc's binaries, do I need them actually? And where to get them?

Spoo · #3 February 23rd, 2005, 11:22 AM

It looks like calc is only available as source files. Most windows users don't have a compiler handy, you know.

Ed Kolis · #4 February 23rd, 2005, 11:43 AM

No, you don't need EEE; you do need calc binaries though.
Hmm, let me go see where the binaries are... I can't find them either; if you want you can compile it with cygwin though... sorry, I only noted that calc runs on Windows; I didn't check for Windows binaries... I really need to plan better...

But basically what I gather from the Windows build instructions is that you need to set up Cygwin (make sure you get the gcc package, it's the C compiler!), put the source in your Cygwin directory, run cygwin, go to your source directory in cygwin (cd /usr/src/calc or whatever your source is under), copy the Windows-specific files to the source directory (cp win32/*.c win32/*.h .) and build the executable (make win32_hsrc)
I have cygwin on the old laptop; maybe I can do all that for you, assuming distributing binaries of someone else's software is OK under the LGPL (I think it is, as long as I include the source or at least say where to get it...)
Alternatively, you could use the DJGPP compiler... that runs natively under Windows... see the above readme for instructions on how to compile it with DJGPP...
Hmm, this all needs to go in the documentation for the templatizer...

Aiken · #5 February 23rd, 2005, 12:44 PM

1) I have a debian install in colinux (gcc 3.3.3) at hand now, would you wrote some instructions how to build win32 binaries in linux? I see one need to mess with a makefile, but where?

2) se4 is unable to load text files in unix format (lf). Please add conversion to dos format (crlf).

3) Do I strictly need jre 1.5 or 1.4.x will be sufficient?

4) Thanks for getting rid of dotnet and all the work

edit: about #1 - just have realized that compilation in cygwin and native *nix will be identical

So ignore #1.

leo1434 · #6 February 23rd, 2005, 09:40 PM

Ed:

I have read the instructions in the calc and I think you have to be a PC-Wizard to follow them. Why such pain? Why not "click on the install file". I think this will be better for the average player (er..., modder) assuming modders are a bit more "PC Skilled" than players. It is noticeable that people who make calc is a bit "Win-hater" but I think that we have to cope with the fact that windows systems are majority. Linux systems are said to run very well, but not all of us have the time and will to become computer technicians in order to learn how to use/install such systems.
On the other hand, I wish to thank you for your work in making such a program.Ithink it fills an important place in my SE4 Toolbox!!

Ed Kolis · #7 February 23rd, 2005, 10:02 PM

@Aiken:
2. Oops! I will do that!

ops:
3. Yes, you need 1.5 because I was lazy and used generic classes.

Java is pretty insistent about pushing updates at you so you might already have it.
4. What's so bad about .NET compared to Java? The runtimes are about the same size to install...

@leo1434:
Yeah, sorry about all the trouble... I've just been wanting to get something out there. Calc is licensed under the LGPL, though, so I'm pretty sure I'd be allowed to include a Windows binary with my distribution of the templatizer, as long as I provided a link to the source code as well. (Anyone want to back me up on that? I don't feel like perusing the whole license again!

)
As for an installer, I'd have to see... I've never found a really decent installer generator, and the program doesn't require a whole lot of files to run. But I could whip up a little batch file or Java program which would copy the files to convenient locations, and maybe even put them in your PATH environment variable so you can call them from anywhere...

Aiken · #8 February 24th, 2005, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Ed Kolis said:
4. What's so bad about .NET compared to Java? The runtimes are about the same size to install...

It will be #5:
5) Send Java there dotnet is already buried

5.1) Don't take it seriously, I'm just nitpicking

I bet that lgpl allow you to redistribute compiled libraries if you put a license and credits files into your package. But you better ask about it in the calc mailing list, I think.