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Old February 26th, 2005, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: Melee Power Rankings Chart

Another very interesting Chart Saber Cherry .

Especially the False Horror and Skeleton Ranks are interesting .

Could you add vans normal and with f9/10 bless ?
And Mictlan Sun Warriors and Jaguar Warriors with f9/10 bless ?

Jaguar Warriors and Vans can be massproduced so it would be very interesting how well they do vs. the other enemies .
And finally you could maybe also add f9/10 blessed centaur warriors and marignon knights of the chalice .

I consider all those as ultraelite-troops and it would be interesting how many are needed to beat e.g. 200 militia .
Finally you could maybe also add a few elite summons , especially Mech Men , devils , FoDs , Serpent Fiends , Demon Knights and Dark Vines .

My guess would be that 10-15 Devils or FoDs are enough to wipe out like 200 Militia or 70 Principes .
For comparision purposes this info would be excellent for me personally .
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Default Re: Melee Power Rankings Chart

Boron: DL the App and test it yourself. I personally have found the app to be VERY useful, thanks Saber Cherry!

As for devils vs 200 militia: The critical mass is somewhere in mid 20's. While 23 Devils are the first group to win over 50% of their battles, 26 already wins over 90% and 28 wins 99,9%. After you go past 30, the avg Deaths per battle start to quickly decline and not even extreme odds help the militia anymore as even if you run huge amounts of battles, the win rate for devils is flat 100%.

The key concept of cource is that the devils are surrounded. Their primary line of defence is the strong Def and high hit points, having 9 militaman poking a devil with sharp sticks at the same time is of cource bad. Once you have enough devils that they form a coherent enough line (in real game situations storm actually helps here), they start to win easily even if you up the number of militia. For the same reason, 70 principes perform considerably worse against devils, losing 99.9% of the time against just 20 devils...

All in all devils still seem a bargain for their price
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