Stupid AI, drop the damned troops!! - Page 3

CW · #21 August 16th, 2001, 06:24 PM

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So, it's the dancing thing, huh? Like I said, that wouldn't work if there was opportunity fire. Your solo games went so quickly because you exploited the lack of it, by using tactical combat. Try a simultaneous-move solo game (strategic combat only). It's harder, as you are finding out. Strategic combat is (purposely?) set up not to use dancing, which roughly simulates the effect of opportunity fire. I think, however, that if a ship has only weapons that take multiple turns to reload, then it will move out of range while reloading. Not a true dance, but it might help. What happens if you try that?

If combat is done in real time with opportunity fire I'm sure I can come up with something not possible in turn mode.

[This message has been edited by CW (edited 16 August 2001).]

dmm · #22 August 16th, 2001, 06:34 PM

Regarding dancing being an exploit:
Some purists on this forum _do_ consider it an exploit, in the sense that 1) it is unrealistic, and 2) the AI doesn't know how to do it. Actually, some consider anything the AI doesn't know how to do properly, like invading planets, to be exploitive. By that definition, winning is exploitive!
But dancing is so well-known and obvious that it clearly isn't an exploit in the sense of cheating other players. And of course, in a solo game, if YOU don't consider it an exploit, then it's NOT!

Kadste · #23 August 16th, 2001, 06:46 PM

Rollo,

I will take you up on your offer to send me the AI files.

Just send them to steve.kadolph@sap.com

I will test them this weekend.

Really looking forward to an AI that will try to capture some of my planets

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Atraikius · #24 August 16th, 2001, 07:18 PM

Kadste -

You could also try the Orks, they will ocasionally attempt to capture planets.

Rollo · #25 August 16th, 2001, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by Atraikius:
Kadste -

You could also try the Orks, they will ocasionally attempt to capture planets.

Yes, of course. Try the orks. Sorry, I forgot to mention them Atraikius. They are already posted. I will still send you the files, so you can test the (beta-)Vikings.

Rollo

dogscoff · #26 August 17th, 2001, 08:59 AM

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the AI is for the Space Vikings shipset that dogscoff is doing (btw, how are the gfx coming along? ).
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Ummm... slowly. No real progress in over a month now. Just been too busy. Sorry.

http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/viking.htm

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CW · #27 August 17th, 2001, 12:56 PM

I've finally decided to give the AI some planetary napalms to play with, since this is the only method that guarantee success, even though there is a 50% chance that the AI might blow up something I want to take over intact. My plan is to use 3 ships - a gunnery DN to take care of the sats, a planetary bombardment BC with JUST enough bombs to wipe out the WPs, and of cause the troop ship.

Master Belisarius · #28 August 17th, 2001, 07:35 PM

Kadste: hey, also you can try the Aquilaeian Empire! Playing against the Vikings, Orks and Aquilaeian, maybe one of them could take over one of your planets!

CW · #29 August 18th, 2001, 07:49 PM

YEEHAA! Planet conquered! And conquered intact! The only thing went wrong was the ships made their individual attack runs instead of doing it together because I did not put them in a fleet. That caused me a cruiser but that's a cheap price to pay, especially considering the number of ships I captured from the Phong lately.

Rollo · #30 August 20th, 2001, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
Kadste: hey, also you can try the Aquilaeian Empire! Playing against the Vikings, Orks and Aquilaeian, maybe one of them could take over one of your planets!

Master Belisarius, I am trying this right now. Should be fun

. Btw, I have posted the Viking AI at the mod archive now. Check them out, if you like.

Rollo