.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
The Star and the Crescent- Save $9.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Shrapnel Community > Space Empires: IV & V

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old August 19th, 2001, 03:18 PM
capnq's Avatar

capnq capnq is offline
General
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
Posts: 3,070
Thanks: 13
Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts
capnq is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How do you do that, Dragonlord?

quote:
So, let's get some more variety out there! (Speaking of which, how about some more atmospheres, like nitrogen, sulfur dioxide, chlorine, or radon?)
The atmosphere types are hardcoded, so you'll have to wait for a patch or SE V.
quote:
That part about trading colonization tech raises some questions: How do you get humans to trade that, as it immediately produces competition in colonizing the same planet types? I would think twice to trade this tech, unless the other player is at the other end of the galaxy.
"Sphere of influence" agreements help with that, if you can easily agree on where the border should be.

I tend to pick planet and atmosphere just to roleplay the race rather than for strategic advantage. My solo game Tiktsin are intelligent plants evolved from a lichen; they were Icy/CO2 long before I read that it was the least common combo in the game. My Rrurrr are Rock/Oxy because I originally created them to be the native race of a human-colonizable world in my theoretical GURPS Space tabletop RPG campaign. The Mi-Go are Icy/Methane because they're traditionally from Pluto in the Lovecraft Mythos.



------------------
Cap'n Q

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the
human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid
island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was
not meant that we should go far. -- HP Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"
__________________
Cap'n Q

"Good morning, Pooh Bear," said Eeyore gloomily. "If it is a good morning," he said. "Which I doubt," said he.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old August 20th, 2001, 12:59 AM

Shoujo Shoujo is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 63
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Shoujo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How do you do that, Dragonlord?

Beautiful but deadly... I like that BeeDee. Unfortunately I'll let you take a shot at being bloodthirsty. In my very first PBW game I picked Berserkers (for the combat advantage till I learned it was bugged) and tried to RP, but that fell apart after the first few turns. I found myself actually liking my neighbors, so I couldn't declare war on them *sigh*

I got myself thinking, would it be possible for winged creatures to fly in a no-atmosphere planet...? I might have to revise that description...
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old August 20th, 2001, 02:53 AM

BeeDee10 BeeDee10 is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 117
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
BeeDee10 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How do you do that, Dragonlord?

Winged creatures, no. Wings need some sort of medium (gas or liquid) to push against. However, you could equip your species with biological "rockets" instead. For a RL example, look up Bombadier beetles; they use glands in their abdomen to produce two chemicals which, when mixed together, react violently and bLast a jet of boiling-hot acid and steam at whatever's annoying them. Your insectoids could use rocket assists for jumping and changing course in mid-leap, which is as close as you can get to "flying" in a vaccum.

Note that this kind of thing would be biologically "expensive," and so probably couldn't be done for long continuous stretches of time. They'd be rocket-powered grasshoppers rather than eagles.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old August 20th, 2001, 06:27 AM

Shoujo Shoujo is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 63
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Shoujo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How do you do that, Dragonlord?

Ugh... I think I'll make em live underground like ants rather than be grasshoppers with rockets...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old August 20th, 2001, 09:23 AM
capnq's Avatar

capnq capnq is offline
General
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
Posts: 3,070
Thanks: 13
Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts
capnq is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How do you do that, Dragonlord?

quote:
would it be possible for winged creatures to fly in a no-atmosphere planet...?
H.P. Lovecraft's Mi-Go could fly better in interplanetary vacuum than in a thick atmosphere like Earth's. Maybe the wings are used as miniature solar sails? (Of course, conventional physics doesn't apply to Mi-Go anyway; they can't be photographed with normal film, for example.)

------------------
Cap'n Q

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the
human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid
island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was
not meant that we should go far. -- HP Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"
__________________
Cap'n Q

"Good morning, Pooh Bear," said Eeyore gloomily. "If it is a good morning," he said. "Which I doubt," said he.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old August 21st, 2001, 01:03 AM

Shoujo Shoujo is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 63
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Shoujo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How do you do that, Dragonlord?

Doh I just thought of an easy solution...I could simply make my race live on a planet with an atmosphere for once. Won't have to worry about twisting the laws of physics or making em grasshopper with rockets this way
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old August 21st, 2001, 04:16 PM
LazarusLong42's Avatar

LazarusLong42 LazarusLong42 is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Posts: 191
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
LazarusLong42 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How do you do that, Dragonlord?

quote:
Originally posted by BeeDee10:
Hrmph. I chose rock/none and advanced storage for very good roleplaying reasons; my race were a race of self-replicating industrial robots that had originally created to do space exploration and development for an organic species. I was rock/none+adv. storage _before_ it was cool!

I think that ultimately the best atmosphere/planet type to choose for your race is "the one that nobody else is using in that particular game." Good luck guessing.



BD: Read James Hogan much? <EG>

LL
__________________
in Virtuo Design
Read my latest story at Speculon
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.