List of known issues

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Johan K said:

- It is still possible to get killed in Magic Duels, even with a difference of more than 6 levels between the two mages.
* The thing with magic duel is that it uses your raw magic level. Items and enchantments have no effect. So the spell is probably working fine.

To me this looks like a serious issue : why should we have a (quite killer) spell that just not works like all other and ignore buffs ?
I understand it's maybe done to avoid total Pythium domination, but it still looks illogical. If you want to even chances just give a +1 for 2 levels difference, but allows buffs so that player can *think* about their MD stategies and not get stuck with their base unit stats ...

[Boron]

PDF said:
To me this looks like a serious issue : why should we have a (quite killer) spell that just not works like all other and ignore buffs ?

At least it makes clams not entirely worthless with Zens mods .

[Huzurdaddi]

Clams in Zen's mod are just as fantastic/useless as they are without Zen's mod. That is to say that Astral gems are just as good as normal.

As to clams use/irrelevance it really depends upon type of game being played. In an FFA with a good number of players they are *the* strategy. In a game with 2 or 3 players on a tight map they are suicide.

[Boron]

Huzurdaddi said:
Clams in Zen's mod are just as fantastic/useless as they are without Zen's mod. That is to say that Astral gems are just as good as normal.

I was just kidding .

But without Wish in Zens Spell mod clams are really less useful .
Taking out Wish was imho a really good idea this way not every nation looks the same in the lategame , with ermor it should now e.g. be almost impossible to transform into a bloodnation in lategame .
So more variety now also in the lategame .

And 100 clams with wish are 2-3 times more powerful then 100 clams without wish

[ioticus]

Another outstanding issue not fixed: some global spells are missing text or have no descriptions at all. Please, for the love of the game, fix this!

[Ironhawk]

One thing I noted a while back and forgot to mention on the boards was that it seems that movement orders are pre-computed by the client, not the server? Which sometimes results in behavior where it looks like you "move through" a recently captured enemy province.

For example, I had an army with 2 strategic move. I created a situation where they were moving through provinces in this order A->B->C. Where B was the only friendly province between A and C. I set that move order from A->C and then cloud trapezeed an enemy VQ onto province B to capture it. So to my surprise, on the next turn, province B was enemy, cutting off the travel route of the army... but the army had arrived in province C anyway...

[quantum_mechani]

Another semi-bug: When your army wins a battle and part of it routes, if there is no nearby province for the routed units to go, they die instead of ending up in the same province.

[Arralen]

Ironhawk said:
... movement orders ...? Which sometimes results in behavior where it looks like you "move through" a recently captured enemy province.

For example, I had an army with 2 strategic move. I created a situation where they were moving through provinces in this order A->B->C. Where B was the only friendly province between A and C. I set that move order from A->C and then cloud trapezeed an enemy VQ onto province B to capture it. So to my surprise, on the next turn, province B was enemy, cutting off the travel route of the army... but the army had arrived in province C anyway...

Not surprising at all:
"Friendly" movement happens before movement into enemy provinces before battles ensueing from these movements. Therefore you army moved A->C, and not until the next step of turn resolution the VQ dropped in there and caused a battle.

[Endoperez]

Alneyan listed this as an issue, which could be a bug or just an undocumented feature.

- It appears that Magic Duel uses *base* astral level: spells and items do not seem to affect the spell at all, or they might be limited in power: an Astral 8 mage (with +1 coming from a spell) lived through more than 500 Magic Duels, while an Astral 8 mage, with +2 coming from spells, was killed after the 10th Magic Duel or so. An Astral 3 mage, fully loaded with items (reaching Astral 8), was killed after the third Magic Duel. Thanks to JK for the information.

Johan K. gave this answer:

* The thing with magic duel is that it uses your raw magic level. Items and enchantments have no effect. So the spell is probably working fine.

I remembered every booster wasn't included, but when I found the source, I was quite shocked.
I really think the spell description should be changed to reflect this.

[Arralen]

There are still trouble with retreats from assassinations:

Since the last patch or so, commanders which are set to "retreat" are supposed to ignore this order in case of a fight that origins in an assassination attempt, right?

However, they still retreat from assassination by "indy assassines", which can occure as random event.

It's highly annoying to loose a HoF commander that way, especially if it's heroic Jotun who would have squashed a knife-wielding human assassine flat...

Or is it the game engines way to punish players who use commanders to "feign attacks" to get clear picture of enemy forces ?