Faerun - started

Boron · #1 May 10th, 2005, 09:21 PM

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DragonFire11 said:
Assuming that I have not been banned for incompetence, Dragonfire would like to play Abysia. Thanks!

Oops sorry i realized now that i forgot to include you in the initial list. I shouldn't always post at 2+ a.m. (like now again

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Aku has already claimed Abysia, i put you on the list with Machaka, the nation you claimed before. If you want still to change feel free to take one of the other still available nations

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Reverend Zombie said:
The latest version of Zen's pretender mod on his web page appears to be 2.00. Where can we find 2.01?

Aku sent me 2.01. Atm he is unfortunately not online but when i meet him again (hopefully tomorrow) i will post where to get 2.01 if Aku has not posted the info before already.

Aku · #2 May 10th, 2005, 10:04 PM

I got zens pretender mod 2.01 from this site.

http://www.dominions-2.org/

after clicking downloads is this link

http://www.dominions-2.org/files.htm

go to zen conceptual balance series

DragonFire11 · #3 May 11th, 2005, 01:54 AM

OK, my bad. I stick wih Machaka, b/c after all, that sounds just like one of my favorite mexican food dishes. If any of ya'll come to Phoenix, be sure to stop by La Pinata. I've been eating there since I was about 3 months old, and man, their machaca tortilla plate is simply the best.

The Panther · #4 May 11th, 2005, 11:43 AM

Very interesting that, so far, nobody has picked 2 of the 3 strongest nations: Caelum and Pythium! Maybe the mods are the reason? Or maybe because they both start in the middle of the map and the edges are a far better place to be.

Plus, after all the micro-management pain on our current Faerun game, I see that Soapyfrog and Hazurdaddi are both joining this one?

Some people never learn...

Shmonk · #5 May 11th, 2005, 11:53 AM

I have a question about the preferences that will be used - VH Research and 9 indie strength. It seems with those settings, the expansion at the beginning will be very slow, correct? Like what, maybe every 3 turns a new province is taken, or even longer?

I guess I'm still having a hard time getting used to indie strength of 9, at least in my SP. Makes for a slow start. But maybe that's what this game will be about. Slow start, more national armies maybe (because of VH research), and it will be a while before summons can happen.

Boron · #6 May 11th, 2005, 12:02 PM

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shmonk said:
I have a question about the preferences that will be used - VH Research and 9 indie strength. It seems with those settings, the expansion at the beginning will be very slow, correct? Like what, maybe every 3 turns a new province is taken, or even longer?

I guess I'm still having a hard time getting used to indie strength of 9, at least in my SP. Makes for a slow start. But maybe that's what this game will be about. Slow start, more national armies maybe (because of VH research), and it will be a while before summons can happen.

A SC-Pretender e.g. can probably still take 1 province a turn from turn 2-5 on depending on the chassis.
This SC-Pretender will be expensive though and with the new scales etc. it is not as an easy choice as in vanilla anymore

But the initial Expansion will be a bit slower of course.
The various Mods and settings shall exactly do what you describe: Give more incentives to build national armies

thejeff · #7 May 11th, 2005, 12:41 PM

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Boron said:
A SC-Pretender e.g. can probably still take 1 province a turn from turn 2-5 on depending on the chassis.
This SC-Pretender will be expensive though and with the new scales etc. it is not as an easy choice as in vanilla anymore

I haven't mastered SC design yet, obviously. Can you give an example of a SC-Pretender design that can reliably take Strength 9 indies with little to no gear or buffs? Or how you'd get enough gear and/or buffs in the first few turns with VH research?

It's not that I don't believe you. I just want to know how to pull it off. My best attempts at SC-pretenders have waited for Alteration-3 and were still only semi-successful. (Immortals took more risks, but weren't really any more successful)

Huzurdaddi · #8 May 11th, 2005, 01:39 PM

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The Panther said:
Very interesting that, so far, nobody has picked 2 of the 3 strongest nations: Caelum and Pythium! Maybe the mods are the reason? Or maybe because they both start in the middle of the map and the edges are a far better place to be.

Pythium gets kind of Borked in this mod. Thurges more expensive, communicants more expensive, troops slightly more expensive. It's pretty watered down.

As for Caelum it's beyond comprehension but they were improved in this version. At least their primary troop: the archer.

A game with this mod and no hoarding restrictions is going to be interesting that is for sure.

I *really* hope that graphs will be off. Graphs being on simply makes the game more titled to hoarders.

Huzurdaddi · #9 May 11th, 2005, 01:52 PM

Heck, I've never played Caelum in a PBEM game. I'll take it instead of Marignon.

I *know* marignon is amazing. I've tried them out before. Let's see if Caelum lives up to the hype.

And Panther. You are right I never learn. Actually where I work is *very* quite right now, I've never seen a company this "quiet" so I have some time at this exact moment to play a game. However this may change in a couple of months. We'll see. Let's hope we can resolve this game very quickly!

Shmonk · #10 May 11th, 2005, 02:07 PM

So, is VH research the next one up from Normal/Standard research, or is that Difficult Research and VH is the highest of the Research settings?

And thanks for the info. That's what I was wondering, because it doesn't seem to me that even with an SC Pretender, it will be difficult/risky trying to take a Province a turn in the first 4 or 5 turns, what with no spells other that the default and no equipment. But I can see maybe 2 or 3 provinces by turn 10, or 1 every 3 turns. Even with Alteration 2, which would take what, at least 3 turns to get to, even with the pretender researching?