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Old May 12th, 2005, 12:41 PM
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Default I think we can rule out 2.16

So my home province is right next door to the inquisition's best buds in the whole world, Ermor. Thematically, I like starting close to Ermor, but this is a little close for comfort.

Not that the Inquisition is afraid! We would happily purge the undead from our lands, but perhaps Zen would object.
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Well, I am adjacent to the lizards this time. No space at all between our capitols.

What is the deal? Why have there been countless games started in Dominions without having this problem in the past?

I just don't get it. The game seems to not care about space between starting capitols anymore...
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Old May 12th, 2005, 04:55 PM
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Wow, this is incredible.

My start this time was clean--in the old neighborhood, in fact, on the other side of where Panther was first time out. Almost on the water, sigh.

Shall we move to plan C, human-placed starts? So long as they are vaguely approximately well-scattered, I won't cavil about small inequalities.
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I don't know how Dominions checks/assigns starting locations. Perhaps completely disconnecting the overseer province messed up the algorithm? Clearly we should just go with human-assigned fairly evenly spaced. As long as the spots are chosen first and then the person assigns nations to those spots in a completely random way I think it'll be quite fair. We'll all see each other's starts when the first map is revealed anyway, so anyone could do this.
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As long as the spots are chosen first and then the person assigns nations to those spots in a completely random way I think it'll be quite fair. We'll all see each other's starts when the first map is revealed anyway, so anyone could do this.
Excellent point.

This is a pain in the neck to do on a wrapping map...

Somebody else should check this, but how about 1, 12, 24, 54, 65, 86, 111, 122, 139 for starting provinces? Almost all have 3-4 between them.

Let me stress the "somebody else should check this" part. I'm sure I missed something near the edges. Feel free to mess with the list...I won't have time to get back to it anytime soon.
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Hi Djo,

Those look like fine starts. I've put red dots on your suggestions on the map. I do suggest moving start 111 to province 98 as indicated by the arrow. This is mainly because I think start 1 already has a fairly poor position (all that waste and mountains), and 1 and 111 are only two apart.

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That looks good! Excellent work.
In the mapfile, I will put nostarts in all the provinces except those listed, and then who starts in which spot will be randomized.

3rd times the charm...
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Cool. You guys are all such good sports!!
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That would be me. I have been out of town working for the last 3 days and had thought (wrongly it seems) that the hosting schedule would allow me to check and do a turn today. But it seems everything has gone awry.

I didn't know this was one of those restart over and over games that you have to watch the beginning of for a week to see if everyone is happy with what they got.

I'll do my best to turn in as many turns as I can today but I am still out of town and only recently had a chance to do anything personal and not business related.

I apologize for the delay.
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Default Re: I think we can rule out 2.16

Were also waiting on Griffin. He may be out of town or something, as he is also missing from a few other games...
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