OT: A Dismal End For Star Trek

geoschmo · #1 May 15th, 2005, 10:01 AM

I don't think the Enterprise actors were any worse than the actors in the other series. I was really excited and looking forward to the show when I first heard Scott Bakula was going to be the captain. He's always been one of my favorites.

Totally agree the music sucked. I still remember my visceral reaction to that bubble-gum rock ballad piece of crap song the first night. I think I made a very vocal post about it on this forum. I'll have to look it up just for fun. In my estimation Enterprise would have been 25% better just by having NO theme song at all. Just a black screen with the word Enterprise leading into the start of each episode would have been better then that crap mtv whiney video thing.

Did I mention I hate the theme song?

If the theme song put Ent on bad footing, what pushed it down the stairs was that god-aweful story arc about the Xindi and that damnable temporal cold war. It's not like they didn't have ready made powerful advesaries in the Romulans and Klingons, they had to manufacture some lame arsed race that wiped out Florida, but somehow never got mentioned in any of the series or the fourteen movies that supposedly happened after that. Maybe it was such a traumatic experience for humans that we blocked out all memory of it as a species?

Turning the middle two seasons into Star Trek: Quontum Leap killed the series for me. The first season wasn't aweful, especially by Star Trek standards. The last season actually was decent. It seemed like they had finally run out of grand ideas how to kill the show and decided, "Hey, maybe we should be doing a show about Star Trek here?" But by then it was too late. It was dead, Jim.

Atrocities · #2 May 15th, 2005, 02:29 PM

If there is a topic in the B%G forum we should move this one over there as well. And yes, it was a very insulting final episode for an otherwise fine series.

I am not a professional writer, but I can tell you that any one with any skill could have done a far better job with that final episode than what was done. It truly stinks and it was done dilibrately to punish the cast, crew, and fans of both Star Trek Enterprise and Star Trek in general.

This would have been a good single episode, say for the stupid part where they allow aliens to board without challenge and Trip commits suicide.

However this can be fixed by books and hopefully in the future, albeit an overly optomistic pipe dream, a real two hour final movie like what was done with Farscape.

When it comes to UPN, if the show doesn'talk getto talk, or have references to rap music or other "socially geopolitically correct" and sometimes racisit induendo, then it is not for UPN.

The season was to be 24 episodes, but in January they cut the shows budge by over half and the decision was made that that in order to try and keep the remaining shows up to the quality of the previous ones, they would have to drop to episodes. Everyone can see for themselves how the show suffored because of this. Normally a show like Enterprise would have a running time of 48 to 51 minutes, but Enterprise was little more than a half an hour show at an average running time of 41 minutes. You cannot develop a fan base for a show if it is consistantly being interupted by UPN commericals and crap.

Enterprise was a far superior show to that of say Andromeda, yet even Andromeda got a five year stint.

It sickens me deeply as a fan of star trek to have watched this final episode. It truly was an insult.

Starhawk · #3 May 15th, 2005, 05:05 PM

Well AT actually I greatly enjoyed Seasons 1 and 2 of Andromeda until they fired Robert Wolfe because they wanted the show "Made more understandable" I.E. dumbed down for the idiots watching it that didn't get the plot (rolleyes) don't those idiots think that if we didn't get the plot we wouldn't be watching it!?

To be Blunt Braga doesn't give a damn in hell about ENT he's already got his writing stint on a new Sci-Fi series that will premier late this year on Fox.....and it shows that to him the last few eps of ENT were just "ah damn I have to finish this" so he just blew it to hell.

Okay THEY KNEW they were boarded by aliens yet the "So far" fast acting MACO defense teams didn't bother showing up? and Trip this brilliant young engineer couldn't think of anything better to do but blow hismelf up WHAT THE HELL!?
And it was an OLD episode of TNG to boot why didn't they at least show it from an EE point of view say....during Insurrection where Picard had to question the whole "Taking orders vs doing what is write" thing?

And it was just an ignoble slap to the face that Trip survived the Xinid incident to be killed by the "Alien Mob".....and Archer was like "Dang that sucks" but not much else they were coworkers for over a decade by that point and very good friends and the best they got was an "Oh damn" I feel sorry for those poor actors they are all pretty good actors (Blalock still bugs me) and they deservered a better send off.

Well on the positive side for some of them anyway:
Backula is going back to stage and show
Linda Park is moving on to big screen movies
The guy who plays Malcom is going back to England to act there.

The others I don't know about but I wish them the best in getting a new show, movie or whatever because they definately deserve it.

Captain Kwok · #4 May 17th, 2005, 01:27 PM

It might have made an interesting regular episode if some adjustments were made to the story, but for a series finale it was horrible choice.

Atrocities · #5 May 17th, 2005, 03:04 PM

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Captain Kwok said:
It might have made an interesting regular episode if some adjustments were made to the story, but for a series finale it was horrible choice.

Well said.

Iron Giant · #6 May 18th, 2005, 12:35 PM

I got the distinct impression that the writers were saying,

"So, then fans and actors don't like our brilliant writing, huh? Well we'll show YOU!

We'll kill off a popular character with no emotions shown,
we'll setup a huge speech for 3 seasons about the birth of the Federation then cut it off
then we'll remind everyone that we USED to have a good show by putting this puny little Enterprise show in the context of our only real success, TNG. So THERE!"

Urendi Maleldil · #7 May 18th, 2005, 09:19 PM

The mirror universe episodes were just awesome. I love old school Trek hardware. No treknobabble required. That's why war is cool.

But then they cut off that story, left it with no ending, and started some story about some baby. Then the last episode takes place several (missing) years later. The Andorian guy shows up again out of the blue. Trip dies for no apparent reason. And then the formation of that atheistic communist Roddenberian utopia we've all been waiting for was thrown in there as an afterthought.

The parallel story with Riker and Troy had no real ending either. Riker's conclusion: to do the right thing. Duh, Riker. I could've told you that in the opening credits, we could've skipped the rest of the episode, you could get back to kicking Borg hiney and I could watch Law & Order.