WALLY WORLD Employment Application

[Leslie]

Given a choice, given the power to snap my fingers and make it so, given the ability to make the ideal the reality, I would make it so.

Canada would make goods made by Canadians for Canadians, and we would not do ANY business with ANYone outside of Canada.

Want our wood, come here and buy it in Canada.
Want our beef, come here and buy it.
Want our water, come here and buy that if you wish.

Want a car made in a car plant in Canada, come here and buy it.

Etc etc etc.

But business seeks out business. It's the nature of business.

Canada (and the US and several other nations too) doesn't need the trade from other nations external to it.
Look around you, consult a good atlas describing natural resources locations.

Canada, the US, and Russia are easily the most resource rich locations on our planet. Partly of course because our nations also know what's involved in the searching out of same.

We really don't need the trade, but yet we can't resist it.
A bad habit none of us seem to wish to break.

We produce resources so that we can sell the resources so that we can get the money to buy the very things we could have just made ourselves in the first place.

It's really quite crazy when you really look at it.

We are in a trap of our own creation.

And we further magnify it though clever hurdles.
We have so many unions.
The unions demand more money.
The businesses have no recourse but to charge higher prices.
Or in some cases, move to getting the product made elsewhere by non unionised cheap labour.

The end result. A unionised worker, that is slowly making himself a liability. The more we unionise, the more we encourage business to not even use the worker.
Yet the worker has not stopped needing a means of gainful employ.
The business has not stopped making the product.
But we are increasingly unable to afford it, if made locally by expensive unionised workers.
So our only recourse, is to take our money to the business that has scorned the unionised way, and had the product made off shore by non unionised means.
Thus the product drops in price, and it gets the sale faster than the more expensive local union produced item.

Unions are not some sort of "enemy".
But unions are indeed part of the "problem".
Part of the solution is to not permit ANY goods to replace locally produced goods.
Some will call that "protectionism".
Rightly so, it IS!

Until we alter the circumstances, the circumstances will remain.

What do you hate more, the business that will sell goods made by slave labour.
The consumer that will buy goods made by slave labour.
The unionised worker that insists on constantly being paid more and more, just because they have been there an increasing sum of time.
Or all of the above?

Right now, wargames appear to be a product I am actually able to say is made often closer to realistically.
I can point to Canadian companies.
I can point to US companies.
I can point to European companies.
All apear to be made in a way, that rewards buying locally.
They appear to be more expensive when bought from foreign sources.

[deccan]

Leslie said:
Given a choice, given the power to snap my fingers and make it so, given the ability to make the ideal the reality, I would make it so.

I don't even want to wade into this mess. But hey, you have a right to your opinions, so long as you understand the consequences of what the real life application of your policies will entail: namely, a much, much lower standard of living than that which would be posssible otherwise. And of course, so long as you understand that in any democracy, your opinions and values would be weighed against the opinions and values of your fellow citizens.

[Leslie]

Deccan, its a myth we even need money. Humanity merely can't just do the right thing for the good of it's people ala Star Trek world.

Thus we pursue gainful employ.

If Canada sealed it's borders, no one in or out, guess what, yes among other things like immigration plunging to zero the businesses in Canada would of course be selling exclusively to Canadians.

Zero outside competition would mean a business had zero competition.
It's not like this will ever happen, just an observation.

Simple human greed is the reason for wanting more than is required.

Here I sit, and my current income is actually well below poverty line, according to what I am told.
I am more well off than a friend of mine earning 18 bucks an hour that lives at home.

I have a wife, son, a place to live, clothes on my back, nice food in the fridge and a few select luxuries.

But I have to make choices like the rest.
There is no beer in the fridge.
I can't smoke (not that I would, brain dead habit at best).
No car, but considering I have no where to go.
No dancing on the weekend (but no where to go either I suppose).
No lottery tickets.
No Bingo night.

It's annoying that so many think they absolutely must have some things in order to be "well off".
My clothes are not at all brand name.
I rent my place, even though I sure wish I could just buy a home.

Our whole society is built on a lot of idiotic misconceptions.

I enjoy a nice enough standard of living. There are a few gaps admittedly.
But it's amazing how well I do with how little I have.

I have nothing supportive to say to persons that support unionised wages that exceed 10 dollars Canadian an hour.
Doesn't matter what your job is, a human is only in need of so much before it qualifies as excess.

The work force is progressively killing itself off for wanting more than is really required.
Walmart is the response to asking for to much.

[deccan]

Leslie said:
Deccan, its a myth we even need money. Humanity merely can't just do the right thing for the good of it's people ala Star Trek world.

I'm fine with that. I disagree of course, because I do want the good things in life, in fact, I think that these are the only things that make life worth living. But I understand and accept that everyone has their own sense of values of what is "good".

[Gandalf Parker]

No, Walmart has been proven to be damaging to the local economy on more than the usual levels of "big chain coming in". Towns are correct in trying to keep it out. And if I was younger, more motivated by my own ethics, I would probably have the fortitude to boycot it. But Im weak and continue to shop there (but at least I try to feel bad about it)

[Atrocities]

PBS Front Line did a story about the WalMart. "Walmart is it good for the US" I believe it was called that. Look it up. Very interesting peace.

[Leslie]

deccan said:

I'm fine with that. I disagree of course, because I do want the good things in life, in fact, I think that these are the only things that make life worth living. But I understand and accept that everyone has their own sense of values of what is "good".

I am not objecting to your objection, merely wondering if you really understood what I have been saying.

I have many skills. I am a capable woodworker, I am a capable teacher. I could just make bookcases if I wanted to, and I could just teach basic history or geography if I wanted to.

And if at the end of the day, I could go and get food at the grocery store, produced by farmers that farmed because they liked being farmers, sold by grocery clerks, that worked in grocery stores because they they liked being grocery clerks. Money would not be required if no one wanted money for doing what they did.

The farmer could get their farm machinery made by companies with workers that enjoyed making machinery in plants.

And the grocery clerks could send their their kids to schools where teachers simply taught becaused they liked to teach.

You see what I mean?

Human society doesn't actually "need" money in the absence of greed. Greed is a petty emotion that keeps us down. It is an immature emotion, and illustrates us for what we truely are, a petty little species.

Our high tech toys can't hide the true nature under the skin of our species.

It is a cycle that we pursue willingly.

Is Walmart "wrong"?
Well only if you think my ideal world would be "better".
Otherwise, Walmart is about making money.
And the business of business is making money.
And unless it is "illegal" certifiably illegal, then objecting to how they make money, is merely objecting for the sake of objecting.
Comes down to just resenting that they have something that you don't.
Greedy competitive behaviour.

If you owned Walmart, would you be happy to be making all that money?

[Mephisto]

Leslie, in your world money-and-trade-less world you wouldn't even use a computer. No one would make enough computers just for the heck of it for the whole world while most of the world could not build one.
Economy is a bit more complex and "greed" as you told it (the desire to trade for things I would like to have I call it) is something that keeps the world go round (and not living in my dark cave). Just my 0.02§.

[Atrocities]

Mephisto said:
Leslie, in your world money-and-trade-less world you wouldn't even use a computer. No one would make enough computers just for the heck of it for the whole world while most of the world could not build one.
Economy is a bit more complex and "greed" as you told it (the desire to trade for things I would like to have I call it) is something that keeps the world go round (and not living in my dark cave). Just my 0.02§.

Well said.