SEIV is being Pirated

tesco samoa · #1 August 29th, 2001, 01:56 AM

Thanks BeeDee10

For correcting that post. I was going into to correct it. But I will leave it as it stands now.

Have a good day.

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tesco samoa · #2 August 28th, 2001, 02:09 PM

What does everyone think of music??? Along the same lines???

I am a member of the emusic club so I just download albums from that site and other stuff for back catalogue music that is unavailable anywhere.

I do not shop at music stores. 100% to 300% mark up is just too much for me.

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Instar · #3 August 28th, 2001, 11:26 PM

One thing that irks me is that here, you can prosecute it. In other countries, its not enforced at all. China even condones it really, they steal all the software and stuff. Ticks me off, it does

LazarusLong42 · #4 August 29th, 2001, 12:31 AM

The worst thing about pirating is there is more to it than the simplest ethical dilemma possible. Take this for instance:

Joe Blow in Nowhereton, Outback, AU, buys SE4 through Shrapnel... it'll arrive in two weeks. Is it now ethical for him to download the full Version from a warez site or wherever? Technically, as soon as the credit card transaction is processed, he is the holder of an SE4 license.

Discuss. Can anyone give me a good reason why it is unethical for Joe to download the full Version elsewhere while waiting for the CD which has already been paid for?

(N.B. I don't support pirating. I do, however, support interesting ethical/philosophical problems

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Richard · #5 August 29th, 2001, 01:00 AM

Because by downloading it he adds one more vote to why the warez site handler should stay in business and probably makes him some money via banners.

Plus if you have to go through some of the sites voting mechanisms you help him that way.

Any download is a vote to the legitimacy of warez.

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geoschmo · #6 August 29th, 2001, 01:00 AM

I think the distinction is in transmitting or sharing copies of the software. Warez doesn't verify that you purchased the software, so whether or not it's ethical for you to download it, it's definelty unethical and illegal for them to upload it.

I myself have copies of SEIV on two separate PC's. That may be a technical violation of the copyright. But I would NEVER make a copy for someone, or give or sell my computer with the copy loaded on it to someone.

Geoschmo

Puke · #7 August 29th, 2001, 03:44 AM

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Originally posted by tesco samoa:
What does everyone think of music??? Along the same lines???

i think that music piracy is actually generating more interest in music, and the Last studies i read on the topic actually placed music industry revenue at a significant gain since mp3 trading became popular. not that piracy is okay, and not that publishing lables are altruistic, but they are definitly wasting their time trying to fight something that is making them money, rather than trying to legitimize it by developing ways to license trading of 'reduced quality' Versions of songs and to make even more money (on top of revenue from increased interest and free marketing) on Online music.

where as software piracy does nothing but cost people money. why in the world would you pirate a game that you enjoy from a small press publisher? you are just decreasing the chances that you will ever see a game like that again. you are not even helping yourself. THINK.

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