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 I think that most of that was developers who did not understand the difference between a publisher like Shrapnel and one like Strategy First. Ones here complain about lack of shelfware or publicity, ones there complain about lack of payment. But a publisher that does online fills and marketing  is instant profits. The one that does shelfware and paid ads means that the money for that has to be repaid before any profit checks. (marketing takes man hours, publicity takes $$$)
 
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		What is SEIV Deluxe?  Is it worth buying it if you already have SEIV Gold and you're planning to buy SEV? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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What is SEIV Deluxe?  Is it worth buying it if you already have SEIV Gold and you're planning to buy SEV?  
			
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		just think sj... if your tools are in the package...  Your software will be at EB    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Well Strat-1st has already announced the release. Im guessing that anyone who hasnt already been contacted, maybe isnt going to be contacted. That doesnt necessarily mean that your stuff wont be included, just that Strat-1st doesnt feel a need to contact you about it.  
 
After all, its not Shrapnel the indept-developer turned publisher and now the proud defender of the indept developer, the company which has already asked us all to participate in betas, in us all developing a new game, in producting a new magazine, etc etc etc. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		GP you lost me.  Its to early in the morning for my brain to be working.  Sounds like your being sarcastic..... am I wrong? No offense. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Q: Since when is SFI in control of the 'content' of the CD? I was/am under the impression that Malfador is the one who decides the CD content, and therefore Aaron is the one to speak to. 
I'll see if I can get Aaron to make an 'Official' post on his site about what exactly the differences between se4:Gold and se  eluxe is. At the very least it will help the existing fan base in their decision to buy or not to buy this new release.
 
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		Aaron would still be the person putting together such a CD, not S1st... They would just print it and market it. I still think it is just a mislabeling of SEIV Gold... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Nope, no sarcasm there. Strat-1st will be the legal side of the CD. So even if it is SEIV Gold it probably has to be called something different than that. And whether Aaron wants it or not Strat-1st may have jumped on the announcement after deciding that the way things were done with the mods and tools freed them of need to contact the authors. Usually something isnt announced if there might still need to be negotiations on it. From what other authors have posted about Strat-1st once the contract is signed, some things are decided without them. Aaron of course is the mostly likely source for who is deciding what goes on it though. 
 
As far as the things that Shrap has done those are all true statements also. People hanging around in only one forum might not know of all of it but its all cool stuff. 
 
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