Communion Master slows you down ?

[Molog]

Heroic quikness and water blessing quikness don't stack.

[Zooko]

But Lu did in fact cast three spells on turn one of the battle, one of which was Quickness, and did in fact cast four spells on turn two of the battle.

So either Heroic Quickness and Water Blessing Quickness *do* stack, or, uh, or Heroic Quickness +103% gives you three spells per turn.

[Molog]

Zooko said:
So either Heroic Quickness and Water Blessing Quickness *do* stack, or, uh, or Heroic Quickness +103% gives you three spells per turn.

+103% quikness gives you 100% of a extra move and a 3% chance of another move, so 3 moves is possible.

I think spell quikness multiplies with heroic quikness, so you get 4 moves next turn.

Some one correct me if I'm wrong.

[Endoperez]

That 3% isn't, AFAIK, a *chance* of getting third move, but means that you get third move from heroic ability every 100/3 =~ 33 turns, starting from the first turn.

[Zooko]

It looks like to me that they stack. Heroic Quickness +100% means "double your moves". Water-9 Blessing means "get 1.5 moves per turn (i.e. 3 moves every 2 turns)". Stack them together and you get 3 moves per turn, which is what my Prophet apparently gets, until he casts Quickness, after which he gets four moves per turn.

[Oversway]

Heroic quikness and water blessing quikness don't stack.

I'm pretty sure they do. At least they did for me in an sp niefel w9 blessing I played back in 2.15

[Vicious Love]

Molog said:
Heroic quikness and water blessing quikness don't stack.

I'm not sure about this version, but one pacth ago, they indeed did not stack.

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They compounded. Heroic Quickness affected your base number of actions, and the Quickness spell doubled the result. So Heroic Quickness 100%xQuickness=4 actions total, 200%xQuickness=6 actions total, and so on, and so forth. This has been verified in three separate games, since I always capitalize on Heroic Quickness(well, in SP) via a quick water empowerment.

Edit: For the record, Ice Devils with 8 actions per turn are teh r0xXOrz.

[Zooko]

Hm. If Quickness actually *doubles* your actions per turn then my numbers don't add up. I could make sense of what I observed only if I believed that Quickness added +1 action per turn. Hmmmmm.

[Endoperez]

It could be that 3% of the heroic quickness coming into play on the first round. That would leave you with base, x2 because of heroic quickness, doubled by spell to four actions.

And on the first turn, you got x3 turns from heroic quickness because 103% gives you one extra action every round, and another from the 3% left over every 100/3 =~ 33 turns.

Does it add up?

[Zooko]

Yes! Good thinking. I assumed that the 3% would come in "at the end" instead of "at the beginning".

It still doesn't explain why he slowed down to 2 per battle round, though. I remain suspicious of Communion Master. After the next turn of this game I will see how he does without Communion Master. :-)