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[PlasmaKrab]

Mobhack said:
Question re the fennecks - if they have TI already, there may well not be any point in adding ground surveillance radar in game terms. (in real life the GSR has some advantages in certain weather conditions, but the SP system does not have weather rules as such).

or - is the GSR a ground mount used by the dismounts? - if so, it can be added to a scout team.

Cheers
Andy

Isn't a GSR supposed to have even better vision rate, like 60 or more?
I know there is no real qualitative difference (maybe there could be? ), but if a vehice has TI and GSR, i think the higher should prevail, provided it can be used anytime, including on the move. Otherwise it is just spotting ability, or in the best case dismount radar.

BTW, why are there so few GSR teams couting as such in the OOBs? Like scout teams, as you said, or OP teams following radar type and comm.

Regards,

Plasma

[PlasmaKrab]

Oh, and a wholly other question for Jaws43:

Have you any info about the Fennek MRAT?

I know it is supposed to fire Gill ATGMs, but is it just dismount transport, or pintle mount, or a special turret? Or has the program been cancelled altogether?
I found nearly no info on this variant, and since I ahave done new icons for the recon, utility and FO versions I would have liked to add this one too.

Thanks for any info,

Plasma

[Jaws43]

PlasmaKrab said:
Oh, and a wholly other question for Jaws43:

Have you any info about the Fennek MRAT?

I know it is supposed to fire Gill ATGMs, but is it just dismount transport, or pintle mount, or a special turret? Or has the program been cancelled altogether?
I found nearly no info on this variant, and since I ahave done new icons for the recon, utility and FO versions I would have liked to add this one too.

Thanks for any info,

Plasma

it will be 5 dismounted Gills.

Cheers

[Jaws43]

Oh I forgot,


A Squadron from
1995 until 2006,
2x recce platoon,
1x infantry platoon of 4x YPR as infantry units

From 2006 until...
3x recce platoon fenneck,
1x MRAT platoon fenneck

[Jaws43]

Jaws43 said:
Oh I forgot,


A Squadron from
1995 until 2006,
3x recce platoon,
1x infantry platoon of 4x YPR as infantry units

From 2006 until...
3x recce platoon fenneck,
1x MRAT platoon fenneck

MRAT platoon consist of 2 sections of 2 vehicles (total of 4 thus)

[Jaws43]

Jaws43 said:

it will be 5 dismounted Gills.

Cheers

And 3x panzerfaust per MRAT vehicle. So a vehicle has 5x Gill and 3x Panzerfaust latest generation. Man I'm glad I only do the Dutch Cavalry and not the whole world

[PlasmaKrab]

Vele dank!

All the better I don't have to icon a new turreted version

And 3x panzerfaust per MRAT vehicle. So a vehicle has 5x Gill and 3x Panzerfaust latest generation. Man I'm glad I only do the Dutch Cavalry and not the whole world

These figures are the ammo loadout? I guess you don't fit 8 AT teams into one Fennek!

So this Fennek MRAT is only a carrier for the dismounted ATteam, which uses both Gill launcher and PzFst III from outside the vehicle, right? No way of firing the Gill from a ring-mounted launcher, like on a HMMWV or anything? Really? heew:

Hey, by the way, how long has the Dutch Army had Panzerfausts?
Pardon if I am not up to date, but I thought they had gone entirely to AT-4.

[Jaws43]

PlasmaKrab said:
Vele dank!

All the better I don't have to icon a new turreted version

These figures are the ammo loadout? I guess you don't fit 8 AT teams into one Fennek!

So this Fennek MRAT is only a carrier for the dismounted ATteam, which uses both Gill launcher and PzFst III from outside the vehicle, right? No way of firing the Gill from a ring-mounted launcher, like on a HMMWV or anything? Really? heew:

Hey, by the way, how long has the Dutch Army had Panzerfausts?
Pardon if I am not up to date, but I thought they had gone entirely to AT-4.

Indeed the Fenneck is only a AT carrier. 3 man do the job. It is all reorganized inside to fit.
The AT-4 is almost done and the Panzerfaust is implemented at this moment.

[Mobhack]

PlasmaKrab said:

Isn't a GSR supposed to have even better vision rate, like 60 or more?
I know there is no real qualitative difference (maybe there could be? ), but if a vehice has TI and GSR, i think the higher should prevail, provided it can be used anytime, including on the move. Otherwise it is just spotting ability, or in the best case dismount radar.

BTW, why are there so few GSR teams couting as such in the OOBs? Like scout teams, as you said, or OP teams following radar type and comm.

Regards,

Plasma

Some GSR are only vision 50.

There are several AOP teams with GSR, usually slower as thay have to carry the kit.

Scouts with a GSR kit would need to be slowed down too, so not very useful. Plus in modern times they usually can have a TI sight of 40 which is more useful in game terms, especially as the mobility needs no reduction.

Cheers
andy