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June 30th, 2005, 08:52 AM
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Re: wut can u wish for with wish?
The following ones also work:
- Anything
- Nothing
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June 30th, 2005, 10:17 AM
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Re: wut can u wish for with wish?
Yep its still abit short. There are over 80 things that the wish can recognize if you ask for them.
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June 30th, 2005, 01:14 PM
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Re: wut can u wish for with wish?
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Yep its still abit short. There are over 80 things that the wish can recognize if you ask for them.
Gandalf Parker
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Does that "80" refer to wish categories or does it include individual things like magic items?
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June 30th, 2005, 06:31 PM
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Re: wut can u wish for with wish?
80 does not include individual items, because there are many more magic items in the game than that, and Wish can get you any of them,.
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July 6th, 2005, 06:37 PM
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Re: wut can u wish for with wish?
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Yep its still abit short. There are over 80 things that the wish can recognize if you ask for them.
Gandalf Parker
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It looks like there are about 70 strings in the executable however it looks like many of them map to the same thing ex:
dough
copper
silver
riches
wealth
money
gold
fighting skill
combat skill
experience
fame ( not sure if this maps to the same thing )
commoners
peasants
populace
people
stop starv
wine
broth
supplies
supply
food
huge nation
large lands
provinces
etc.
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July 7th, 2005, 09:22 AM
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Re: wut can u wish for with wish?
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Gandalf Parker said:
Yep its still abit short. There are over 80 things that the wish can recognize if you ask for them.
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It looks like there are about 70 strings in the executable
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Heehee. I wondered if anyone would pick up on how to get the whole list. Thats what I did, a "strings" command. I hope that in Dom3 they encrypt their data. Even if they did a Rot13 on each bit of text before using it I dont think it would slow the game down much and would make it alot more fun not knowing stuff like this.
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July 9th, 2005, 10:52 AM
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Re: wut can u wish for with wish?
how do u do a strings command?
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July 9th, 2005, 02:39 PM
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Re: wut can u wish for with wish?
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how do u do a strings command?
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On a Unix variant (Linux, Mac O/S, Solaris),
strings <name of file>
will dump all the printable strings in the file to the screen. The output can be redirected as normal, which is good, since there's a lot of text in the executable.
Sorry, I don't know if Windows has a similar command/function.
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July 9th, 2005, 04:55 PM
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Re: wut can u wish for with wish?
Could someone just give the 70+ outputs that the rings command gives? I'd be happy to actually test through them one at a time to see what each one does, but it's a bit frustrating having to guess.
A real complete "everything you can wish for" list could then be made available, and people who didn't want to look at it could choose to not do so.
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July 10th, 2005, 10:20 AM
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Re: wut can u wish for with wish?
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cryingdevil said:
how do u do a strings command?
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On a Unix variant (Linux, Mac O/S, Solaris),
strings <name of file>
will dump all the printable strings in the file to the screen. The output can be redirected as normal, which is good, since there's a lot of text in the executable. 
Sorry, I don't know if Windows has a similar command/function.
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Well I disagree back. 
There is no way to encrypt the strings that will hide it from absolutely everyone. And any extreme effort would slow the game down more than its worth. But even something as weak as Rot13 (yes I purposely chose the weakest in the world) would work for a much larger chunk. For one thing you couldnt do a simple strings on it and jump right to the answer by knowing just one of the possibilities.
And even if people dont like not knowing things in the game, oh well. The game does do that on purpose. People can try to undo that, or they can shift to games where all the rules are known (I hear chess is good), but this one isnt like that.
My only comment was that in the next one maybe they will do better. Of course it will fail but all security does. Its always only an effort to block "as many as possible, as much as possible, for as long as possible" within reason (in this case without making the game too slow)
And, no, obviously Im NOT going to provide a whole list.
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