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July 3rd, 2005, 02:28 PM
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Re: UK infantry organisation.
Just putting my two pennies worth in here
Modern section equipment is very flexible depending on the threat situation, The lSW has not been withdrawn so it is still issued as a normal personal weapon 2 per section, I cant see this changing for quite some time due too money considerations, after all the LSW is nothing more than an a slightly heavier SA80 with a bipod. In Iraq were the armour threat is low the law is kept in the armoury and section firepower is boosted by either a gpmg or minimi depending on availability.
In SPMBT this could be shown by duplicating the modern section and changing at weapons for support mgs thus giving you a choice of sections depending on the scenario you are playing
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July 3rd, 2005, 03:37 PM
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Re: UK infantry organisation.
Since these are not standard squads, you could as well edit them in dedicated scenarios to reflect task-modified kit. Just change the squads' weapons when deploying them, drop the LAWs for additional MGs for instance.
In battle cases, you cannot predict what the enemy will field, and anyway that'll do for a surprise element! 
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July 3rd, 2005, 03:47 PM
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Re: UK infantry organisation.
I thought I'd seen something about that on an Armynet document.
The Avrage laod out of infantry was something horrid like:
2xLSW's, 2xSAW's, 2xUGL's and the Sections 2 LAW's! I would have loved to include that In my version of the OOB, but I Didn't think it would go down well, Slightly to much power gaming there.
BTW I'll bet you that htere are still plenty of infantry units feilding LSW's at the moment, Heck most still haven't got L85A2's! It's only units that go out to Iraq get the cool kit.
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July 3rd, 2005, 06:26 PM
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Re: UK infantry organisation.
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Listy said:
I thought I'd seen something about that on an Armynet document.
The Avrage laod out of infantry was something horrid like:
2xLSW's, 2xSAW's, 2xUGL's and the Sections 2 LAW's! I would have loved to include that In my version of the OOB, but I Didn't think it would go down well, Slightly to much power gaming there.
BTW I'll bet you that htere are still plenty of infantry units feilding LSW's at the moment, Heck most still haven't got L85A2's! It's only units that go out to Iraq get the cool kit.
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With only 4 weapon slots, you would need to make a weapon item like "2 LSW and 2 Minimi" ..
And the LSW is still standard issue - it is not retired, it just was not much use as an auto support weapon for precisely the same reason the BAR was not that useful. No changeable barrel, and the mag was loaded from underneath, so had to be changed by the firer - no way an No 2 could hot-swap it like the top-mounted mag on a bren.
So the LSW is probably still in the section, but most likely used as a personal weapon more than any sort of support SAW. It does have use as a "marksmans" rifle as the longer barel and bipod makes it a useful weapon for longer range potting, if not quite a real sniper weapon. But not a "sniper rifle" in game terms - so if needed, you can safely ignore the thing.
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July 3rd, 2005, 06:31 PM
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Re: UK infantry organisation.
Thats what I ended up doing, as I had reduced its HEK by one.
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July 3rd, 2005, 06:17 PM
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Re: UK infantry organisation.
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cusbut said:
Just putting my two pennies worth in here 
Modern section equipment is very flexible depending on the threat situation, The lSW has not been withdrawn so it is still issued as a normal personal weapon 2 per section, I cant see this changing for quite some time due too money considerations, after all the LSW is nothing more than an a slightly heavier SA80 with a bipod. In Iraq were the armour threat is low the law is kept in the armoury and section firepower is boosted by either a gpmg or minimi depending on availability.
In SPMBT this could be shown by duplicating the modern section and changing at weapons for support mgs thus giving you a choice of sections depending on the scenario you are playing
regards Cus
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I already have provided sections with different "extra" weapons such as an added mimimi.
There is also the "light infantry" org, which is for places where armour is rareer (S leone say) and so the ATW are less emphasised. Extra LMG instead etc.
However the SP system is not good for "mix and matchh" - you need to create a new unit to say, simply change the AAMG from the LMG to a 50 cal for no real game impact. That then uses an entire slot for the variant (an issue in the OOBs with large unit counts) and adds more maintenance hassles.
You cannot simply do things (in this game system) like with the WRG tabletop rules (swap out a 2 points VAAMG to a 5 point VAAHMG or remove it completely if not required). SP units are bought as entire "lumps" with no customisation allowed in-game.
Cheers
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